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I have a friend who is a male (I will call him Steve) and works at a factory. He is a short man who has all the skills of a tall man. Look it up, short men are passed over for promotions. (these are my words, not his) He hits a brick wall when he tries to apply for promotions. Steve was told by his supervisor that he should again apply for the promotion that they were looking to fill. So he did, and they hired a man outside the company instead of promoting him. This hasn't been just one time, but over and over. He did some investigating, and it appears he didn't get the promotion because of a former supervisor who doesn't like him I'll call this man Mr. Fred. This supervisor has cause so many people to up and quit. Steve has worked at this company over 5 years with stellar work ethics. Yet, Mr. Fred, keeps refusing to let him be promoted.
Mr. Fred even tried to block him from getting clearance to drive a tow motor. They asked. Mr Fred, should they give it to him, and the man said, NO WAY! Steve, stood his ground when they kept asking him to drive under someone else's clearance. They kept pushing, and he said, I will not drive under someone else's clearance. They end up giving it to him because he stood his ground.
The most recent kick in the teeth is the new hire is wanting him to train him to do this job. Should he just suck it up and say nothing and train him, or should he stick up for himself and go to HR?
Clearly training someone to do your own job is a bad sign. Ask. Then ask again. Is there a reason I am training someone to do MY Job?
Well, technically he can do this job and has done it numerous times, he can do this job with his eyes closed, but it "isn't his job" He applied for this position and instead of giving him the job they hired someone outside the company.
I have a friend who is a male (I will call him Steve) and works at a factory. He is a short man who has all the skills of a tall man. Look it up, short men are passed over for promotions. (these are my words, not his) He hits a brick wall when he tries to apply for promotions. Steve was told by his supervisor that he should again apply for the promotion that they were looking to fill. So he did, and they hired a man outside the company instead of promoting him. This hasn't been just one time, but over and over. He did some investigating, and it appears he didn't get the promotion because of a former supervisor who doesn't like him I'll call this man Mr. Fred. This supervisor has cause so many people to up and quit. Steve has worked at this company over 5 years with stellar work ethics. Yet, Mr. Fred, keeps refusing to let him be promoted.
Mr. Fred even tried to block him from getting clearance to drive a tow motor. They asked. Mr Fred, should they give it to him, and the man said, NO WAY! Steve, stood his ground when they kept asking him to drive under someone else's clearance. They kept pushing, and he said, I will not drive under someone else's clearance. They end up giving it to him because he stood his ground.
The most recent kick in the teeth is the new hire is wanting him to train him to do this job. Should he just suck it up and say nothing and train him, or should he stick up for himself and go to HR?
So a new employee is asking for help. You don't need to help...but what are you going to HR for? "Hey - the new guy is asking for help..." What's the issue?
As for the original question - you go to HR when it applies to the HR policy. e.g. you have a question about your benefits, your paycheck doesn't seem to be right, someone is treating you in a way that is against documented and can be objectively evidenced, etc. This would include being passed over for promotion and you can prove discrimination (assuming Steve falls under a protected class, gender, race, age, etc.)
What you have is more of a political situation. If Mr. Fred is in a position where his decisions are pretty much final and Steve is often not in agreement - Steve is better off looking for new employment.
HR is not going to do anything about this. If asked, the boss will have a list of reasons why your friend wasn't promoted, and "he's short" won't be on the list. Who would typically train an external candidate for the position?
A man from 3rd shift who is under Mr. Fred came to the new guy and told him if you want to know how to do this job they hired you for, you need to talk to Steve as that man knows his stuff. So the new man asked Steve not to hold it against him for being hired. Steve told him, of course not. So Steve trained the new man today.
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