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I live in Vermont and I swear everywhere I go someone 70 something is working! I have nothing against old people (I will hopefully be one someday, too) but yes, they are clogging up the jobs. I don't just mean stores, but the libraries, and businesses.
Life is not just very old and new graduates. Many of us in our 30s, and 40s have great work ethics.
I have said this before...I know 2 women who are probably around 60 working 'service jobs' and they both 'flaunted it' in my face (that they are working while, me, 20 years younger) is not.
They say I am too picky. Well, I have nothing against people who work service jobs, bless them, but wanting something 'better' is not a sin.
PS, They are both single women--no kids and no spouses to 'tie them down' and take them away from their 'precious jobs.'
It's possible that they are working beause they have to. If they are single and 60, they need to work--they aren't old enough to retire.
It's possible that they are working beause they have to. If they are single and 60, they need to work--they aren't old enough to retire.
I'm sure they need to work. Most of us do. 60 is not old, really, now.
The point is they both seemed to be incredulous that I am unemployed and that 'I don't want to work my way up the ladder.' (both strange assumptions).
However, here in Vermont, 'a good job' is making $10 an hour and yes, working in some service industry job...something that I still find distasteful.
21 million illegals later no longer true jobs are being taken that americans dont wana do.
at the local senior center used to be lots of help the elderly jobs they be gone illegals snapped them up.
21 million illegals later no longer true jobs are being taken that americans dont wana do.
at the local senior center used to be lots of help the elderly jobs they be gone illegals snapped them up.
Illegals do not take jobs Americans don't want to do but by depressing wages illegals create jobs Americans can't afford to do.
I'm sure they need to work. Most of us do. 60 is not old, really, now.
The point is they both seemed to be incredulous that I am unemployed and that 'I don't want to work my way up the ladder.' (both strange assumptions).
However, here in Vermont, 'a good job' is making $10 an hour and yes, working in some service industry job...something that I still find distasteful.
I have to wonder why you then also say
I live in Vermont and I swear everywhere I go someone 70 something is working! I have nothing against old people (I will hopefully be one someday, too) but yes, they are clogging up the jobs. I don't just mean stores, but the libraries, and businesses.
Sounds like even if they stopped 'hogging' these jobs, you wouldn't want them anyway
"They say I am too picky. Well, I have nothing against people who work service jobs, bless them, but wanting something 'better' is not a sin."
Difference being, they want to work, you prefer to wait for that 'something better'.
I have to wonder why you then also say
I live in Vermont and I swear everywhere I go someone 70 something is working! I have nothing against old people (I will hopefully be one someday, too) but yes, they are clogging up the jobs. I don't just mean stores, but the libraries, and businesses.
Sounds like even if they stopped 'hogging' these jobs, you wouldn't want them anyway
"They say I am too picky. Well, I have nothing against people who work service jobs, bless them, but wanting something 'better' is not a sin."
Difference being, they want to work, you prefer to wait for that 'something better'.
Nope, I don't want to stay if things don't improve. But my son and husband are doing well here so I have to deal with it for now. Secondly, I can't do the hours 'non-parents' can...I won't get hired because retail wants nights, weekends, any time they say...I am SO TIRED of hearing "I don't want to work." It's really just a bunch of b.s. I've been trying to find a job since the end of August.
My husband works nights. I have to be home with my son. Is this so hard for anyone to understand.
Therefore, I cannot 'do any job.' I have to wait for something I can work that fits in with our family schedule. I'm not the one who sets the rules of the economy these days, but I am catching flax from 'everyone' because I can't get a job. It's not being 'picky' it's doing what works for my family.
Because there are so many job seekers (of all ages) and a lack of jobs, business owners can 'pick and choose' whatever hours they need you to do. If they say Monday come in at 6 am, Tuesday 10 am, Wed. work till 10 pm, and so on, there are plenty of people ready to do that. Some of us can't...
Honestly I feel like when you hit 70 you should be able to kick back and retire or consult or whatever. Seeing so many older folks working is 'depressing.' They should enjoy their years (unless they WANT to work). However, they did not create the bad economy and are doing what they have to so they can survive.
To be fair, it's not 'just the older folks' competing for any job..it's all ages...
Last edited by GypsySoul22; 06-13-2009 at 07:34 AM..
"Honestly I feel like when you hit 70 you should be able to kick back and retire or consult or whatever."
Only if you can afford it. Has nothing to do with "should be able." Like buying a house or anything else, it has nothing to do with what "should be" happening, it's whether you can afford it.
I knew a guy in his 40s who lived in a tiny studio rental under now-gone rent control. (Disclaimer- I lived in a rent-control apartment, and I've owned one). He said, "I'm an adult, shouldn't I be able to live alone?"
"Only if you can afford it."
I doubt many single women of 60ish working in a store are doing so to entertain themselves. Especially women- often divorced after years of staying home or not working in a major earning capacity. They're screwed, not having a good time.
(I'm 56, terminally single, earn a good living in a stressful job working third shift) and see single women in my age group hitting the age wall for having not lived like an indpendent wage earner. Again and again and again.)
I know children must be raised and one should hope that a marriage is lifelong. However, so many women lived their economic lives as if the party is never going to end. They're the ones working in stores, believe me.
I never wanted to be looking for roommates in older age or not being able to get my teeth fixed or new glasses or anything.
Regarding the poster who has to pick and choose due to family requirements, "everyone" should certainly appreciate that. Children cannot be left alone, of course. However, employers don't have to care one bit about an applicant's personal needs, be they caring for a dependent, a sick elder, transport, whatever. They just don't have to, and usually don't, especially in this economy.
But "everyone" around you should understand.
Except for the occasional emergency (ie kid is injured and taken to ER--which could just as easily be a spouse or parent) an employees dependents should never cause unscheduled lost time. An employee should always have backup care arranged IN ADVANCE.
Same thing with transportation issues. Of course anyone could get an unpredicted flat tire on the way to work. But the employee who has constant car problems, the employee who has constant sitter problems--that's a drain on the company as well as the morale of coworkers who have to pick up the extra workload.
I don't "understand" people who don't do what they need to do in order to have backup dependent care and maintain their vehicles in good operating order so they can fulfill their obligations to their employer.
Except for the occasional emergency (ie kid is injured and taken to ER--which could just as easily be a spouse or parent) an employees dependents should never cause unscheduled lost time. An employee should always have backup care arranged IN ADVANCE.
Same thing with transportation issues. Of course anyone could get an unpredicted flat tire on the way to work. But the employee who has constant car problems, the employee who has constant sitter problems--that's a drain on the company as well as the morale of coworkers who have to pick up the extra workload.
I don't "understand" people who don't do what they need to do in order to have backup dependent care and maintain their vehicles in good operating order so they can fulfill their obligations to their employer.
My pet peeve is the single mother, may a halo be placed about her head making her a special person in this PC world, who lives in near poverty with a crummy car who somehow wants me to take responsibility as if I had something to do with making her baby.
As if it were an "accident" and it "just happened".
Had one once that it was something else every single day. Every day she was late, had to leave early, had to take an long lunch etc, etc, etc and I kept her on far longer than I should have because her reservoir of excuses for being late was pure comedy gold. It got to the point managers were making bets on 1)when she would show up and 2)what the excuse would be when she did.
I promise you all I didn't have anything to do with it.
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