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I have no doubt that this is true at your company, but there are a lot of companies/managers out there that don't play the game this way (especially today). Young grads like us often times find ourselves working hard, trying to prove ourselves, etc. and never getting recognized for it in terms of pay or promotions. It's pretty demoralizing when you work your butt off to "prove" yourself and the end result is the same pay and same job title after years of hard work and dedication.
And yes, you can certainly look for another job if you're not happy, but with the average job search lasting several months these days, you can be stuck in that lowly position for quite some time.
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Originally Posted by bande1102
I've rarely found this to be true. There are numerous reasons why people get raises and promotions. Being a hard worker isn't necessarily one of them. In fact, lately I've been noticing that the only way (I don't have exp with gov jobs) to get a promotion or decent pay raise is to change jobs and renegotiate. In fact, I expect to change jobs every couple of years for that very reason.
Then work hard, build a list of accomplishments and find a better job. right?
Then work hard, build a list of accomplishments and find a better job. right?
I think that's the moral of the story. I think 2-3 years and out will become the new norm amongst workers until/unless companies decide that retaining talent is beneficial to them.
I think that's the moral of the story. I think 2-3 years and out will become the new norm amongst workers until/unless companies decide that retaining talent is beneficial to them.
And, the truth is that companies really don't care about keeping employees anymore.
In this economy, they know that if someone quits that they have 200 applicants ready to fill the position without having to pay more.
The time when employers were loyal to their employees seems to be a thing of the past.
I think in general, most people pretty much work the same no matter what they are being paid. It's kind of a function of how that person rolls, in general, I believe. That said, however, I think employees DO have a better attitude when they feel they are being justly compensated and valued. So that usually translates into a little better work overall, I believe.
I want paid for what I do. If you want $8 per hour work, that's what you'll get. But, in reality (at this point in my life), I'd never work for that amount. Minimum wage is for minimum work employees. It's an insult.
I don't see how they'd be insulted. I've made minimum wage in the past - and I didn't feel insulted. I was a teenager with limited availability and limited skills. I was probably only worth $5.15/hr...
Minimum wage pay jobs are pretty much all menial and require very little skill that can't be taught in under a day.
There's a joke that goes something like this:
A homeowner had a problem with their leaking water pipes and called in a plumber. The plumber arrived, and inspected the problem area. After about 15 minutes he found the problem, and drilled a small hole to patch it up.
The bill came to $200. The homeowner balked! "15 minutes of work and it's $200!!"
The plumber said yes, you paid me $15 to drill and $185 to know where to drill.
In other words, when it comes to the amount of effort you put out on your job, would you say that your employer...."gets what they pay for", or would you give 100 percent effort regardless of whether you were making $12,000 a year or $30,000 per year?
Just wondering, y'all
20yrsinBranson
Of course I would give my 100% despite the large difference of pay rate. It’s what the employers are expecting from you but there should always be a limit for you to follow, you should set your boundaries. Basically, employers are looking for an employee that has a good working attitude and not some salary driven employee. I believe that good opportunities come when you work hard.
And, the truth is that companies really don't care about keeping employees anymore.
In this economy, they know that if someone quits that they have 200 applicants ready to fill the position without having to pay more.
The time when employers were loyal to their employees seems to be a thing of the past.
This isn't always true. It took me a year to learn everything I needed to know to be truely effective at my job. My employer can absolutely replace me, but it would take them a year after I quit to bring someone up to speed again. Many employers simply cannot afford that right now.
I guess I'm the odd man out on this. I always do my best, regardless of the pay or job title. At the end of the day, I want to walk out, feeling that no one could have done as good a job as I did. It doesnt matter that the boss doesnt realize that; as long as I realize it, that's all that matters.
Funny thing is they never do. The manager gets a raise for your work and will either take advantage of the situation or not give a damn. I've learned a long time ago that you need to look at your work situation at that time. If I am getting paid minimum wage but your manager is great, do a good job, and he might recognize it. If my boss is a bureaucratic ass, why bother? He will only take advantage of me.
In other words, when it comes to the amount of effort you put out on your job, would you say that your employer...."gets what they pay for", or would you give 100 percent effort regardless of whether you were making $12,000 a year or $30,000 per year?
Just wondering, y'all
20yrsinBranson
Probably... probably not. It depends on the situation. There are people who are willing to work for a job that pays less than the minimum wage as long as they enjoy/love the job. Also, when the situation is less favorable and you can't find any job better than that, then you might need to put extra effort on it.
But for me, it is always wise to put extra effort in everything I do.
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