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^ London does have a pretty strong grasp on the rest of the world - or as strong as any city can have short of being a hegemonic power.
Try doing financially substantive business in any major city around the world and your reference point would be London not New York.
New York is clearly an economically more powerful city than London, and clearly leads in finance. The cities aren't close on either measure.
If you're trying to say "London has greater financial interest in a broader variety of places than NYC" then I would agree. Since London has a small domestic market, and since London is positioned closer to much of the developing world, it tends to have more influence in more geographies. That certainly makes sense, but doesn't mean than London is as powerful or important as NYC. It just means that London ventures farther afield for its business (because there isn't as much business at home).
Yet despite having a far larger metro, lags its sister city in financial trading, foreign direct investments, international tourism, retail and so on, in some areas quite significantly. I don't think it's tenable to say specificity or specialization entails insignificance.
Not true. NYC is far more important than London for financial trading, and generally has more foreign direct investments most years. It's also a much bigger retail center.
But the UK is a tiny country. Obviously it will have more international tourism. Singapore or HK have basically 100% international tourism, because they are city-states, doesn't mean they are bigger tourist centers than London or Paris just because they have smaller domestic markets from which to draw.
And the fact that NYC beats London for international investment most years is doubly impressive because of this fact. NYC needs no international investment to be the worlds leader for investment because the domestic market is so massive; in contrast, foreign investment is London's lifeblood, because there are no major wealth centers in the UK outside of London. London could never be as great as it is if it were dependent on the UK.
New York is just ugly now and doesn't even seem modern anymore. Paris is beautiful, modern and old, perfect sized streets. Same with London, except feels a bit smaller than Paris but IS cleaner.
Paris and London both have a "large feel" on the big avenues and boulevards but everything in NYC is just too large and Manhattan is tiny. It's just a complete concrete jungle.
Inner London, Manhattan and whatever you've defined as "Paris" are not equivalent entities.
London and New York have roughly the same population.
Of course they are. The CITY OF PARIS is tiny and has not been changed since 1860, although it is LARGER than MANHATTAN and than the central area of London.
The metro population of Paris is 12 million +, London is around the same
The Paris city limits will change next year and will be at around 7-8 million.
New York is just ugly now and doesn't even seem modern anymore. Paris is beautiful, modern and old, perfect sized streets. Same with London, except feels a bit smaller than Paris but IS cleaner.
Paris and London both have a "large feel" on the big avenues and boulevards but everything in NYC is just too large and Manhattan is tiny. It's just a complete concrete jungle.
I don't think NYC was ever really "modern" within the adult life of the average GenX-er or subsequent generations.
I would have imagined places like 6th avenue would have seemed modern in the mid-late 20th century when the 60s/70s architecture there was proliferating, but not so much these days.
Paris's aesthetic is timeless, so it has obviously preserved well. London is basically an ancient city that is now being retrofitted and revitalized with modern infrastructure and technology. Both look great today.
I don't think NYC was ever really "modern" within the adult life of the average GenX-er or subsequent generations.
I would have imagined places like 6th avenue would have seemed modern in the mid-late 20th century when the 60s/70s architecture there was proliferating, but not so much these days.
Paris's aesthetic is timeless, so it has obviously preserved well. London is basically an ancient city that is now being retrofitted and revitalized with modern infrastructure and technology. Both look great today.
New York is just ugly now and doesn't even seem modern anymore. Paris is beautiful, modern and old, perfect sized streets. Same with London, except feels a bit smaller than Paris but IS cleaner.
Paris and London both have a "large feel" on the big avenues and boulevards but everything in NYC is just too large and Manhattan is tiny. It's just a complete concrete jungle.
Any other comments?
NYC is the center of the world, London is amazing, and paris is good but should not be in the same boat as NYC or London
Which do you personally prefer?- London with NYC at a close second and Paris is great too in my opinion.
I wrote in a similar thread to this that Manhattan has just as many if not more tree-lined residential avenues than London, so the view of greenery being relatively absent in NYC seems to be an unjustified stereotype. As you say, NYC is definitely not short of charm, such as the brownstone-lined cobble streets or the Beaux Arts motifs as you correctly mention.
However, as distinguished as they are, knowing the areas reasonably well, I personally don't think they come close to the cachet of beauty that you find in historic Paris, central London or other major European cities with an historic core predating the 19th century.
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