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Old 11-11-2018, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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First, people who travel abroad is a selected subset of the general population, and not indicative of a culture. And people who have to learn a new language in order to travel have a different set of educational and experiential pretexts.

The main factor that pervades the whole culture is the public education system, depending on whether children are taught first to be obedient, or analytical.
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Old 11-17-2018, 06:58 PM
 
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The problem with America are those rural and suburban folks, whose lack of awareness about the world and history, allow themselves to be more susceptible to manipulation.
Same goes for Australia. The rural folk are less engaged with world affairs, however I do not see a major problem with this, as long as they do not espouse hateful/ignorant views on marginalised or minority groups.

I have also seen a lot of "university educated", "intelligent" people from the cities say some very damning and unwise things. In fact I think there are a lot of young people in university who think their intelligence gives them license to be arrogant and think they are always right.
So I guess intelligence is a broad spectrum: you can be intelligent but rigid and ignorant of other opinions.
I think truly intelligent people are those who try to see things from a number of different perspectives.
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Old 01-31-2019, 07:32 PM
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Is that a sole sampling of college education exclusively among any form of school accumulation when older? Sorry, lots of other qualities matter too. Spirituality side outside of superficial. For one example, people acing their own SAT/ACT exams equivalent end up quite overly rigid limiting too overly conventional closing off. Political ideological theories into action is just a full enough other affair that is rearranging accuracy. Simultaneously tons of other miscellaneous variety to express wildly. Mixing of smart, and dumb even amount for tons of widespread geographic coordinates throughout.
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Old 01-31-2019, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Same goes for Australia. The rural folk are less engaged with world affairs, however I do not see a major problem with this, as long as they do not espouse hateful/ignorant views on marginalised or minority groups.
Interesting. I don't find the same in NZ, although a similar perception also exists among academic/professional rednecks

The reality is that many so called enlightened urban types don't get past the country accent and bare feet, and I don't feel that I need to prove myself, or counter their dopey presumptions - even happy to play along with it.

I'm actually in rural Australia now, and many rural folk I know would be a little disappointed (but not surprised) by such sweeping generalisations.
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Old 01-31-2019, 09:57 PM
 
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I think urban Americans (those that have been accused as elitists) are worldly, although not as worldly as Western Europeans.

The problem with America are those rural and suburban folks, whose lack of awareness about the world and history, allow themselves to be more susceptible to manipulation.
I’m a suburban American. I’ve been all over the world. What matters is socioeconomic status and intellectual curiosity, not urban vs suburban vs rural. To travel, it takes money or job skills where your employer is willing to pay for your travel. Anyone can learn about the world. Anything you’d like to learn is a few mouse clicks away on the internet.
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Old 02-01-2019, 10:14 AM
 
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Another thing - Americans often have tendency to PROJECT their outlook on other countries. With another words, they have certain ideas about how things work in the US and they are often coming from the assumption that the ideas should be the same behind other countries, what makes them tick, instead of realizing that the Old World might be of a different concept all together, particularly when it comes to Europe.
This is correct, and often works exactly the other way. Europeans have a very strong tendency to look at the US and say, We do it in such-and-such a way, it works perfectly, and you Americans are stupid and ignorant not to adopt our ways. They do not give a thought to any of the fundamental differences between the USA and the various European countries and/or the EU, which would explain *why* we are not like Europe.

Sometimes this plays out in very minor ways, like Europeans complaining about the "stupid" American system of adding sales tax at the register without having the vaguest clue about why we do it this way. Or often it is large things like why doesn't the US just go ahead and ban guns and adopt universal healthcare, how hard could it be.

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Old 02-01-2019, 01:37 PM
 
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Culture has to do with studies and travel but ALSO WITH THE HABITAT,.-
In Spain and Italy according to UNESCO they have the 2 main artistic and historical World Heritage .

In the most the cities and towns of Spain and Italy there are Romanesques Churches,Gothic Churches,Castles, Monasteries , Roman aqueducts ,etc etc etc etc etc.-

In these 2 countries even the less literate people know more or less some of their history..

And it is still true the maximum as sayd Ciceron that "History is a teacher of life"

Being immersed in a historical Habitat gives you a Cultural Base and a interest in history and art.-

At the beginning of the last Century was still many illiterate castilian farmers.

When the famous english writer Chesterton returned from a trip to Spain they asked him for his impressions of the peasants of Castile and he answared with one of his famous paradoxes " I Admired how cults and wise what were they these illiterates were".-
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Old 02-01-2019, 01:44 PM
 
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Most aware: Israel, Switzerland, Scandinavian countries.

Most ignorant: China, India, most Eastern European countries.
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Old 02-02-2019, 05:57 PM
 
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This is correct, and often works exactly the other way. Europeans have a very strong tendency to look at the US and say, We do it in such-and-such a way, it works perfectly, and you Americans are stupid and ignorant not to adopt our ways. They do not give a thought to any of the fundamental differences between the USA and the various European countries and/or the EU, which would explain *why* we are not like Europe.

Sometimes this plays out in very minor ways, like Europeans complaining about the "stupid" American system of adding sales tax at the register without having the vaguest clue about why we do it this way. Or often it is large things like why doesn't the US just go ahead and ban guns and adopt universal healthcare, how hard could it be.

This is true.
The fundamental differences are not easy to figure out right away, hence - the initial reactions like this..
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Old 02-02-2019, 06:06 PM
 
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I’m a suburban American. I’ve been all over the world. What matters is socioeconomic status and intellectual curiosity, not urban vs suburban vs rural. To travel, it takes money or job skills where your employer is willing to pay for your travel. Anyone can learn about the world. Anything you’d like to learn is a few mouse clicks away on the internet.

Russia would be a big exception in this case, (particularly when it comes to such big cities as Moscow and St. Petersburg.)

As much as urban population is addicted to intellectual life, concerts and museums, gossips, fashionable restaurants and lattes, the RURAL population is addicted to the life in nature and the wilderness ( sort of like life in Alaska, to make the best comparison.)
And RURAL life in Russia is rural for real. It's not urbanized.
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