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Originally Posted by sonyagreen
eskercurve, can't agree with you... of course every revolution is a desire for changes. and it's very good when common people unit and defend their rights. But it's sadly when delivered leaders provoke us and use a simple arm called manipulation of masses. as a result this elite wants to control countries with rich natural resources: oil and gas reserves and vast territories.
Arab Spring is a bright example - there were thousands of victims. peaceful victims! do you really guess it's a healthy thing?
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Umm ... let's go down the list:
- Tunisian President Ben Ali ousted, and government overthrown. -- brutal dictator gone. Good riddance
- Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak ousted, and government overthrown. Continued popular protest against military provisional government. -- corrupt puppet of the West gone who did nothing for the economy. Good riddance.
- Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi killed after a civil war with foreign military intervention, and government overthrown. -- Brutal dictator and terrorist supporter. Good riddance.
- Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh agrees to step down within days after months of popular protests. -- Idiotic and unpopular leader with authoritarian ties and ties to terrorists. Good riddance.
- Civil uprisings against the governments of Syria and Bahrain, despite government changes. -- I believe Syria is next. The Syrian government has shown it cares little for its own people.
- Kuwait, Lebanon and Oman implementing government changes in response to protests.
- Morocco, Jordan implementing constitutional reforms in response to protests.
Basically, the Arab Spring (and most popular revolutions) will have some killed. The same happened during the American war of independence from the British Empire. IMHO, the Arab countries are now starting to catch up culturally to the West.
At least I hope so.
And anyone who thinks the status quo was adequate in the above bullets is insane. Anyone who thinks terrorists, dictators, and leaders who wouldn't hesitate to kill their own people en masse clearly doesn't understand what democracy is, or why it works.
And none of these uprisings were due to the oil companies or big multinational conglomerates. Nor were they coup d'etats by the militaries. They were all popular uprisings. Sure, the CIA, MI5, etc. had hands in supporting the revolutions when it suited them, but there were blunders too. Like in Egypt, we supported Mubarak until he was forced out. Cost us a major political ally in the Arab/Muslim world.
There are winners and losers in all revolutions. The losers are usually those allied closely with those who are forced from power. Many times these days, it is the same ethnic group or political party as the leader forced from power.
So popular uprisings is a healthy thing. Why do you think the West does it every so often during election cycles?