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Old 07-23-2012, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Even in their low birth rate, I saw a lot of Japanese school children outdoors during my visit in Tokyo and Hiroshima.
Probly far more than I'll ever see here in Chicago.
OK. But not quite sure whether the OP is talking about the REAL number of children, or the PERCEIVED number of children. The OP does say, "Where children ARE almost non existent" not "where children SEEM TO BE non existent."

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Old 07-23-2012, 10:16 AM
 
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When I first moved to London I noticed the lack of children and retired people around too, though it depends on the neighbourhood.
I do not know where you live in London, but I lived in NW London and at night, there were mobs of kids running around causing problems, mostly vandalism, but a few assaults. Not even speaking of teens, but early teens and younger. A person could easily walk upon a group of eight or more of them.
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Old 07-23-2012, 02:01 PM
 
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Even in their low birth rate, I saw a lot of Japanese school children outdoors during my visit in Tokyo and Hiroshima.
Probly far more than I'll ever see here in Chicago.
Me too. Lots of large school groups at a lot of attractions or playing outside in parks. Same thing in Korea. Sometimes they used to follow me around and giggle and point at the white foreigner when they'd see me in some of the smaller cities and towns. Which is sort of normal in a lot of Asia with children.

Additionally in my old neighborhood in Portland, Oregon, there were always kids outside playing and riding their bikes--then I moved to a slightly nicer area and I rarely see kids around--nor does it seem like most people have kids. It can vary from area to area.

But there's no place on Earth where children are "non-existent". Even at the lowest birthrate nations--someone is still having kids.
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Old 07-23-2012, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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OK. But not quite sure whether the OP is talking about the REAL number of children, or the PERCEIVED number of children. The OP does say, "Where children ARE almost non existent" not "where children SEEM TO BE non existent."
So that takes out Japan in the list. He said places "where you saw practically no children".
Japanese cities have lots of attractions and places built for kids. And unlike most American cities, Japan has a very low crime rate. Which makes their parents feel a little bit secure for them to let their kids play outdoors or ride trains alone going to school/home.
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Old 07-23-2012, 02:54 PM
 
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Where have you visited where you saw practically no children.

When I went to Spain you rarely saw too many kids. I have heard Italy even more so where kids are almost an endangered species!
Actually, I noticed quite many children in Spain. Maybe because they come always in groups with their large families.
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Old 07-23-2012, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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In Germany or in Poland there is a very low birth rate, however all children play outside and are not "micromanaged".
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Old 07-23-2012, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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Good point. This needs clarification.

In the US there are tons of children, but like another poster noted, most of them, at least those in the middle-class families, are scheduled and micro-managed to a T. This makes parents' life ...a ...well, they don't have one. Your adult life is pretty much over once you have children - unless you're one of those who mange to self-brainwash and accept that they absolutely enjoy their life when sitting at their children's activities on the side. "It is what we do as a family and we enjoy it to death!".
I am 25, and at that age American young adults begin to marry and have families. I would say roughly a quarter to a third of my graduating class is either married or has children or both. Contrary to what seems to be a popular notion, not everybody's life revolves around themselves. For many mothers (and probably a lot of fathers), their children and family ARE their lives, and they would not have it any other way.
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Old 07-23-2012, 05:44 PM
 
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I am 25, and at that age American young adults begin to marry and have families. I would say roughly a quarter to a third of my graduating class is either married or has children or both. Contrary to what seems to be a popular notion, not everybody's life revolves around themselves. For many mothers (and probably a lot of fathers), their children and family ARE their lives, and they would not have it any other way.
This is one way to look at it, but the other ( European way) to look at it, is to understand that once you hit 25 and get children, your life of an adult isn't over, you should keep on progressing and developing, and that involves a lot of things. That doesn't mean that children are not your first priority, but they have their own time and space for growing, without your every-minute involvement. At the end of the day they have something to share with you, and so do you, because ( as I've said) you keep on growing and developing, and when you are "recharged" with your adult life, you might have better reflection on what your child has to say.
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Old 07-23-2012, 07:02 PM
 
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I didn't expect to see many kids in Spain, but I saw tons. Maybe kids get out of the house more than in the US
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Old 07-23-2012, 07:40 PM
 
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Again, what is the point with this thread?
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