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Old 09-08-2008, 11:49 AM
 
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Agreed. More tampering with nature. It's like survival of the fittest barely exists amongst humans anymore, and looks how disastrous it's becoming.
I suggest you go back and re-take your english literature class. Pick up any book about Victorian Britian in it's heyday and you will see the modern day verison of what your suggesting (Clockwork Orange is another recommendation). Yes, I do think "Equality" is a bull**** term used to push Western society towards socialism, but there is a thin line here that you're beginning to cross. As someone with a disability, I am keeny sensitive to enguentics (A little known secret is Ehichmann tested his final soultion system on the disabilied of Weinmar Germany, before bringing out on a mass scale. So this is an issue I do not ever take lightly)

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Another similar issue is the problems in Africa, with all the efforts being made to try to help people who aren't able to grow enough food or find fresh water. IT'S A DESERT - and it can't naturally sustain human life. As callous as it sounds, those who overbreed in regions that can't support them should and will eventually die out. Sending starving people bags of rice and bottled water is just another way to prolong the inevitable.
Somewhat true. There's more to the story of Africa's plight than is relevant to this thread (and it's not all the white man's fault either). I don't think many people would find it all that humorous if one day the Midwest had a massive crop failure and some pissy Eurocrat said something to the effect of what you said. Do onto others as you would like done onto you.
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Old 09-10-2008, 01:54 AM
 
Location: Fairfax
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So glad to see someone else thinking about the this. I felt so alone, can't talk about it without every making you feel like a real anti-baby creep! I work in an environment (U.S. military) which is really family oriented and tends to be very traditional. This sort of topic is extremely forbidden.
Our entire culture is focused on family - it is the most important thing - from talk shows to news casters, movies - you can talk about the devasting effects of overpopulation all you want and people will agree - in big picture theory.
But when you get down to floor level and talk families, babies, not having them - forget about it.
Years ago I decided it was pointless to keep giving to organizations to save the earth, save the tiger what have you (well I give to nature conservancy and orgs that buy land to keep humans off) - I tried to find population control organizations to give to. Kind of hard, they seem to tend to come and go and as near as I can figure have gotten zero traction.
If you're so serious about population control, go to India or Africa. The U.S., Europe, East Asia and much of the rest of the world are not experiencing overpopulation in the least. These places need MORE babies, not less.
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Old 09-29-2008, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Small town in BC
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You got that right. Overpopulation is THE problem. (Incredibly the right wing denialist kooks are not only dismissing global warming but overpopulation as well like Al Gore invented it.) World Overpopulation Killing Earth: The Root Cause Of The Earth's Problems: Too Many People (http://environmentalism.suite101.com/article.cfm/we_are_the_environmental_problem - broken link) We're outstripping the carrying capacity of the world like a plague of locust.
Right wingers at least the extreme ones are also against abortion, euthanasia, birth control, and homosexuality. It's like they fear the extinction of the human race and that our planet is overrun by panda bears and dodo's .

I agree with a fellow poster that advanced medicine may have contributed since we have fewer infant mortality rates than the past, childbirth deaths, or stillborn babies, life expantancy is longer, and no world wars for now.

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Old 09-30-2008, 12:59 AM
 
Location: Lettuce Land
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Your logic stream has gone bonkers if you seriously think the earth is "over-populated", imo. But that's your right. Hopefully you 'walk the walk' and thus prove out Darwin's theorem. Cheers
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