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Old 11-07-2013, 05:24 PM
 
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From the evolutionary tree we can tell N O Q R are the most closely related.
P is very rare now. Q, M, and S are not commonly found in the old world now.

O: East Asians, excluding Mongols and northern Japanese.
R: Europeans, excluding some northern polulations.
N: Finns and some Slavic groups, some Siberian groups.

Does this branch also achieve the best scores in IQ tests?
Their expansion in the old world must have a reason

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Old 11-07-2013, 08:45 PM
 
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My haplogroup is R1a1a (Eastern European haplogroup).

Never had an IQ test but I might be higher than normal. I have a college degree and a CPC certification. Have to at least have somewhat of a decent brain to get that.

My roommate is haplogroup N. He is Chinese and an actuary. He has a very very big brain. Lol.

We both took the 23andMe tests and found out our haplogroups.
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:48 PM
 
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Oh, and most people with haplogroup N are Chinese. Finns are also N, but they are a far off branch from the tree. China is only about 2% N but because China has so many people most Ns are found in China.
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:41 PM
 
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Oh, and most people with haplogroup N are Chinese. Finns are also N, but they are a far off branch from the tree. China is only about 2% N but because China has so many people most Ns are found in China.
Yes N and O are closely related anyway. N is also common in central Asia.

Mongols are dominated by C and Tibetans have 50% D. In terms of Y-DNA, they are actually quite distant from Chinese. In other words, as far as Y-DNA is concerned, a British is closer to a Chinese than a Mongol is. A British is also closer to a Chinese than to an Arab.
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Old 11-08-2013, 08:24 AM
 
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You inherit your Y-DNA from only one of more than a million ancestors going back 20 generations (500 years, to Columbus). There is only once chance in a million that you inherited your IQ (or any other detectable characteristic) from that ancestor, instead of one of the other 999,999..
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Old 11-08-2013, 09:04 AM
 
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You inherit your Y-DNA from only one of more than a million ancestors going back 20 generations (500 years, to Columbus). There is only once chance in a million that you inherited your IQ (or any other detectable characteristic) from that ancestor, instead of one of the other 999,999..
Not that simple.... It's about the population, the culture.
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Old 11-08-2013, 09:08 AM
 
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Not that simple.... It's about the population, the culture.
Right, I think he was trying to explain why it is not simple.
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Old 11-08-2013, 09:20 AM
 
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Not that simple.... It's about the population, the culture.
Going back 20 generations, your Y-DNA only identifies your father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's haplogroup. It tells you nothing about the other million people from that generation who passed genetic material down to you. If hat man had been a migrant or a refugee from some distant place, and married a local native, you would be of a haplogroup that only represents 1/1,000,000 of your genetic characteristics.

I can trace my family tree back nearly that far, still in England. But I am haplogroup G, which is nearly all in the Middle East today. Obviously, with nearly all of my ancestors being English, any characteristics I might share with Haplogroup G people from Iran or Kazakhstan is diluted to barely a drop of blood. Even my Lithuanian mother immediately blows half of my vestigial Y-DNA out of the water, with another quarter dashed by my Irish grandmother..
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Old 11-08-2013, 10:27 AM
 
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Going back 20 generations, your Y-DNA only identifies your father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's haplogroup. It tells you nothing about the other million people from that generation who passed genetic material down to you. If hat man had been a migrant or a refugee from some distant place, and married a local native, you would be of a haplogroup that only represents 1/1,000,000 of your genetic characteristics.

I can trace my family tree back nearly that far, still in England. But I am haplogroup G, which is nearly all in the Middle East today. Obviously, with nearly all of my ancestors being English, any characteristics I might share with Haplogroup G people from Iran or Kazakhstan is diluted to barely a drop of blood. Even my Lithuanian mother immediately blows half of my vestigial Y-DNA out of the water, with another quarter dashed by my Irish grandmother..
R and O share a relatively recent ancestry, which means their ancestors lived in the same tribe and practiced the same culture not too long ago. When they split and moved to other parts of the world, they brought the culture to wherever they moved to.

Your paternal ancestry belongs to G, which means your paternal ancestors did not belong to the same tribe as R and O people. You see the point?

Of course Y-DNA is not everything. There is also mt-DNA that traces maternal ancestry. Also culture can be borrowed between groups, etc.
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Old 11-08-2013, 10:29 AM
 
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This should've died out in the 1930's. Utterly disgusting.
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