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It seems like they are one of the Anglo countries with the older Indian and Pakistani communities because of colonial ties. The US, Canada, and Australia have communities that seem younger.
Some other places have high proportions of South Asian populations among their immigrants like Fiji, African countries and the UAE but they often seem to have either tensions among them and the locals or else be seen as "guest workers" and not really integrated/established. Then again, I have not been to those places so all I am getting these ideas are from hearsay and online stuff.
Would the UK be the best example of South Asian established overseas communities?
Maybe. I think the ones there still keep their culture somewhat, but not to the extent of Fiji, Africa or South-East Asia. Don't forgot Malaysia and Singapore. Indians here tend to preserve their culture (language, religion, food, even clothing) although in Singapore especially younger Indians are often English-speaking and westernised. Singapore might indeed be the best example of Indians being integrated.
Hmm, I'd imagine over a period of several generations that the South Asian communities in Canada will be similarly integrated to those in the UK. The South Asian community in the US is proportionally much smaller, so I dunno if its ever going to feel similar to that in the UK.
Anyone ever experienced the South Asian community in Durban, KwaZulu-Natal in South Africa? If so, how integrated did you feel it was with the black community?
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Maybe. I think the ones there still keep their culture somewhat, but not to the extent of Fiji, Africa or South-East Asia. Don't forgot Malaysia and Singapore. Indians here tend to preserve their culture (language, religion, food, even clothing) although in Singapore especially younger Indians are often English-speaking and westernised. Singapore might indeed be the best example of Indians being integrated.
Postman, have you visited both KL and Singapore? If so, in which city did the Indian community seem more integrated into the larger fabric of society? I noticed that they're proportionally similar (KL's comprising ~10% and Singapore's comprising ~9%), but KL has a much larger Muslim population (due to the # of ethnic Malays) and perhaps Indians are more connected to that culture than they are to the more dominant Chinese demographic in Singapore.
What about Guyana or Trinidad? They both have old well established communities of South Asian descent.
And let's not forget Suriname! I think these three would be the winners + Singapore + Mauritius + Reunion (although I know it's not a real country), but the UK possibly after them if I haven't forgotten any other small states. Certainly the most integrated amongst the big countries with major Desi populations. Malaysia and Sri Lanka and Fiji aren't more integrated then the UK because there's so much tension with the natives. Not sure about Africa, I've heard the communities there keep to themselves alot to and out-marry more rarely than in the UK.
Hmm, I'd imagine over a period of several generations that the South Asian communities in Canada will be similarly integrated to those in the UK. The South Asian community in the US is proportionally much smaller, so I dunno if its ever going to feel similar to that in the UK.
Anyone ever experienced the South Asian community in Durban, KwaZulu-Natal in South Africa? If so, how integrated did you feel it was with the black community?
Postman, have you visited both KL and Singapore? If so, in which city did the Indian community seem more integrated into the larger fabric of society? I noticed that they're proportionally similar (KL's comprising ~10% and Singapore's comprising ~9%), but KL has a much larger Muslim population (due to the # of ethnic Malays) and perhaps Indians are more connected to that culture than they are to the more dominant Chinese demographic in Singapore.
Of course, many times, my parents are from Singapore and Malaysia respectively. I've also had quite a few friends from Singapore and Malaysia of Indian heritage.
Singapore, for sure. Largely due to Singapore's more inclusive policies. Well most Indian Malaysians are Hindu so are pretty segregated from the majority Muslim Malays, although there are Indian Muslims and they are closer to them, as well as Bangladeshis and Pakistanis. It's not uncommon for Chinese and Indians to mix in Malaysia, but not to the same extent of Singapore. Among young Singaporeans there isn't much of a barrier.
doesn't the US have the biggest Indian community? I read that it has over 3 000 000 of them across the states, more than most other countries outside India.
What about Guyana or Trinidad? They both have old well established communities of South Asian descent.
Those countries don't count because the south Asians actually form part of the culture, have been in those countries since colonisation and fuss are not counted as immigrants or even ethnic minorities. If you were to count South Asians in the Caribbean as such you should do the same with whites and blacks.
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