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View Poll Results: How larger should the US be?
No larger than it is today, 50 states and territories 52 59.09%
US and Canada 7 7.95%
US and Mexico 3 3.41%
US, Canada and Mexico 2 2.27%
The whole North America (including Central America and the Caribbean) 4 4.55%
North America and South America 2 2.27%
US, Canada, UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand 1 1.14%
The developed world (North America, Europe, Japan, Australia) 2 2.27%
The western world (The Americas, Europe, Australia, New Zealand) 1 1.14%
The whole world (North America, South America, Europe, Africa, Asia, Australia, Antarctica) 14 15.91%
Voters: 88. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-15-2015, 12:52 PM
 
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Then New England would become separate and then we'd have ''Atlantica'' and United States of Great Lakes (all the States that border the great lakes)
Kind of. Not all of the Great Lakes states are on the same page. Besides, that region of the country isn't as politically radical as the other places we're talking about.
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Old 05-15-2015, 12:52 PM
 
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The USA is riven by multiple regional cleavages. And in recent years, a growing class divide.

With a bad economy. What happens when the soothing effect of prosperity-or even the semblance of property-is gone?

Expand the U.S.A.? When the country as is is only barely holding together?




Came across the term "Civil Conflict" on another forum, where the present was compared to the 1850s.
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Old 05-15-2015, 12:56 PM
 
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Indeed. This region has absolutely NOTHING in common with southern states at all! Only speaking the same language but that's it.
I like it when I'm right.

Could Southern Florida, Bahamas and Puerto Rico become a Country? It could be called ''USC'' United States of the Caribbean.

Interior US Colorado, Utah, Nebraska, Kansas, Idaho, Dakotas and Montana could become ''Great Plainland republic'' or something like that maybe ''No sealand''?
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Old 05-15-2015, 12:58 PM
 
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Kind of. Not all of the Great Lakes states are on the same page. Besides, that region of the country isn't as politically radical as the other places we're talking about.
Isnt the Great Lakes more conservative than the coastal strips though?
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Old 05-15-2015, 01:08 PM
 
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Isnt the Great Lakes more conservative than the coastal strips though?
Depends where you are in either region. The west coast yes, is quite liberal. Until you get into San Diego and Orange Counties which is where it becomes much more conservative although SD County is changing. Most of the large cities in the Great Lakes region like Chicago, Minneapolis and Detroit are quite liberal. The rest of those states much less so. Then there are whole states; Indiana is much more conservative than Minnesota as a whole. Pennsylvania is a Great Lakes state but aligns more with the Northeast than the Midwest.

Thing is, these states as well as the ones you mentioned above are most likely what would be left of the US if it were to break apart. These areas are much less extreme, you can see that just from some of the comments from members here who live in those areas.
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Old 05-15-2015, 01:14 PM
 
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Came across the term "Civil Conflict" on another forum, where the present was compared to the 1850s.
A break up of the US won't be anything like the 1850's I don't think. No one wants that regardless what side they are on. I think it will remain political with some cultural aspects coming into play then there would be legislative decisions made.
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Old 05-15-2015, 01:17 PM
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Depends where you are in either region. The west coast yes, is quite liberal. Until you get into San Diego and Orange Counties which is where it becomes much more conservative although SD County is changing. Most of the large cities in the Great Lakes region like Chicago, Minneapolis and Detroit are quite liberal. The rest of those states much less so. Then there are whole states; Indiana is much more conservative than Minnesota as a whole. Pennsylvania is a Great Lakes state but aligns more with the Northeast than the Midwest.

In california, the mountains and certain parts of the Central Valley are quite conservative.


FIGURE 2. DEMOCRATIC VOTERS DO NOT APPEAR VERY NUMEROUS IN A LAND-AREA MAP

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Old 05-15-2015, 01:18 PM
 
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In california, the mountains and certain parts of the Central Valley are quite conservative.


FIGURE 2. DEMOCRATIC VOTERS DO NOT APPEAR VERY NUMEROUS IN A LAND-AREA MAP
I've addressed the inland vs coast already.
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Old 05-15-2015, 01:20 PM
 
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One thing to keep in mind when looking at these maps whether they be California or the US; the red areas are huge but they are sparsely populated.
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Old 05-15-2015, 01:25 PM
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I've addressed the inland vs coast already.

My bad, I haven't read the whole thread.
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