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Old 06-18-2016, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Canada
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If you want to work in northern Canada I strongly suggest you first visit in the middle of winter time to see if you can take the cold winters up there.
It depends on your definition of North. There's a need for doctors in Nunavut, but there's also a big need in places like Northern Ontario. Even in a reasonably sized city like Kenora Halcyon could do alot of good and help alot of people who need him. In somewhere in serious need of health care like the Nunatsiavut region in Labrador or La Loche Saskatchewan he could be uniquely placed to change lives. Halcyon, I really think you've a noble mission and I encourage you to come to my country to help the people who live here. I work in health care and I understand the great unmet need. The challenges are different then in a developing country, but no less real. People suffer from malnutrition that is almost as devastating to human health, but it manifests as type 2 diabetes and a BMI of 40 in a 26 year old woman who will lose her foot to gangrene at 32. Communities may not suffer from HIV epidemics, but suicide epidemics can be lethal and ruin lives too. Much of the health care gap is caused simply by not enough people wanting to work up there. One more doctor on the ground could change many lives that wouldn't have otherwise been changed.

You could do good, and this country would embrace you. I wouldn't say we're a morally perfect nation, we make mistakes like all others. Hell, the above described shame of our nation couldn't have existed if not for our greatest collective moral failing. Come help us fix it, I think we're on the right path and trying always to improve. The country would embrace you, those Northern towns aren't exactly cosmopolitan, but the national mythology and ethos is one that is open minded to ethnic difference. We're practically the only Western country right now that doesn't have some sort of nativist right wing political reactionary movement gaining strength and while it's not like it could never happen here, I think it is deeply rooted in our history and the way we view the country. We went right from multi-ethnic empire united under the crown to globalist hub like that in a huge territory that's had room for everyone. Quebec had a parallel development with more concepts of an ethnic nationalist 'us', but its also open to immigration and to difference. If there's any push back in this country, it's to the excesses of some socially conservative religious practices, but even there, we've been wary of opening Pandora's box and demonizing whole communities. Someone like you would be welcomed.

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Old 06-18-2016, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Beautiful British Columbia 🇨🇦
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Thank you so much! I watched a video about the reserves in northern Ontario and Nunavut... Absolutely heartbreaking. I honestly would not have been able to tell that was Canada and not a poor country if I hadn't been explicitly told that. It's just so unthinkably crazy that there are people living this way in a country as rich as Canada.
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Old 06-18-2016, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Canada
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You are correct but still, all those places you mentioned are extremely cold. I would encourage the OP to visit first. My comment had nothing to do with Ops religion or ethnicity. Of course he would be welcomed here.
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It depends on your definition of North. There's a need for doctors in Nunavut, but there's also a big need in places like Northern Ontario. Even in a reasonably sized city like Kenora Halcyon could do alot of good and help alot of people who need him. In somewhere in serious need of health care like the Nunatsiavut region in Labrador or La Loche Saskatchewan he could be uniquely placed to change lives. Halcyon, I really think you've a noble mission and I encourage you to come to my country to help the people who live here. I work in health care and I understand the great unmet need. The challenges are different then in a developing country, but no less real. People suffer from malnutrition that is almost as devastating to human health, but it manifests as type 2 diabetes and a BMI of 40 in a 26 year old woman who will lose her foot to gangrene at 32. Communities may not suffer from HIV epidemics, but suicide epidemics can be lethal and ruin lives too. Much of the health care gap is caused simply by not enough people wanting to work up there. One more doctor on the ground could change many lives that wouldn't have otherwise been changed.

You could do good, and this country would embrace you. I wouldn't say we're a morally perfect nation, we make mistakes like all others. Hell, the above described shame of our nation couldn't have existed if not for our greatest collective moral failing. Come help us fix it, I think we're on the right path and trying always to improve. The country would embrace you, those Northern towns aren't exactly cosmopolitan, but the national mythology and ethos is one that is open minded to ethnic difference. We're practically the only Western country right now that doesn't have some sort of nativist right wing political reactionary movement gaining strength and while it's not like it could never happen here, I think it is deeply rooted in our history and the way we view the country. We went right from multi-ethnic empire united under the crown to globalist hub like that in a huge territory that's had room for everyone. Quebec had a parallel development with more concepts of an ethnic nationalist 'us', but its also open to immigration and to difference. If there's any push back in this country, it's to the excesses of some socially conservative religious practices, but even there, we've been wary of opening Pandora's box and demonizing whole communities. Someone like you would be welcomed.
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Old 06-18-2016, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Beautiful British Columbia 🇨🇦
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That's a good point. I was actually considering doing my med residency in Alaska if I'm still in the US by then. I'd like to think I can handle the cold, but hey, I'm only 20; at my age we all think we're invincible when really we're anything but!
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Old 06-18-2016, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Canada
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You are correct but still, all those places you mentioned are extremely cold. I would encourage the OP to visit first. My comment had nothing to do with Ops religion or ethnicity. Of course he would be welcomed here.
Sorry if I implied otherwise, OP had questions about such things in his first post so I went on a tangent, didn't mean to imply I thought you had a differing opinion on that. I guess the point of my response, is there's north, and there's really north, and there's a big difference in the cold, but you're right, it's cold no matter what, visiting is important.
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Old 06-18-2016, 03:26 PM
 
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You got lots of options.

Europe, Canada, Australia, UK or maybe developed Asian countries like Hong Kong, Singapore, Japan and Taiwan.

But i guess they'll be more difficult to adapt.
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Old 06-19-2016, 04:22 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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You got lots of options.

Europe, Canada, Australia, UK or maybe developed Asian countries like Hong Kong, Singapore, Japan and Taiwan.

But i guess they'll be more difficult to adapt.
And aside from that, aside from maybe Hong Kong, places such as Singapore, Taiwan, South Korea and Japan are quite conservative
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Old 06-19-2016, 05:12 AM
 
Location: Finland
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I still think Finland would be a good option. The education is known around the globe, the country checks all of the OP's wishes except nationalism, and there's a shortage of doctors. As Finnish is also a small language with few relatives, most of the education material is in English. It might be easier to get a resident visa if starting the studies here, and not try to come when graduated. IDK.

There is of course the issue with the language which is hard to learn and very different from English, but if she's gonna be a doctor, it will not be the first hard thing in her life, lol.

As for the race/religion issue, if someone xenophobe asks where you're from, reply in a loud thick Southern accent "I'M FROM 'MURICA!", and that's the end of the discussion.
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Old 06-21-2016, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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My plan is to finish my education, and move to a place (NOT in America) where doctors are in especially high demand and highly compensated. And of course the country I move to should be more progressive than the US

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Bernie Sanders was our big chance to change, and we blew it).
Excuse me, but the bolded part of your 1st statement does not jibe with 2nd.

But good luck finding a socialist oriented country where doctors are be "highly compensated".
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Old 06-21-2016, 11:14 AM
 
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I know for Germany you have to wait about 5 years or more. But, Germany does not allow dual citizenship, you must turn in all your other passports if you want the German passport
That doesn't rescind your constituional right to American citizenship.

You just need to get a replacement US passport.
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