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New York City 4 10.00%
LA 8 20.00%
San Francisco 2 5.00%
London 3 7.50%
Paris 6 15.00%
Sydney 12 30.00%
Tokyo 2 5.00%
Hong Kong 2 5.00%
Dubai 1 2.50%
Voters: 40. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-07-2016, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Are you kidding me? Poor people can't live in San Francisco. Not when the average rent is between 3000 and 5000 dollars a month for a one bedroom, in some places even a studio. San Francisco has no business even being on this list and it seems like a lot of people have no idea what California really is in general.
Doesn't San Francisco have the most homeless people in the USA? Tenderloin comes to mind.
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Old 07-07-2016, 01:44 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Doesn't San Francisco have the most homeless people in the USA? Tenderloin comes to mind.
Having a lot of homeless people doesn't mean it's a good place to be poor or homeless. The Tenderloin is where SF concentrates the services it has so they concentrate there. That's also a very high crime neighborhood. Many of the homeless in SF are mentally ill. Some homeless were given one way tickets to SF. In fact, the city sued the state of Nevada over that practice. San Francisco has one of, if not the largest income disparities in the entire US. There are high-rise apartments where rich tech people live and then outdated places where average people live on an income that could get them something fairly decent elsewhere. Then there are the scores of homeless sleeping right out on the sidewalks which almost constantly smell of urine. The few shelters are always filled to capacity as are the food places for them. There was a story of a college kid I believe who paid 400 dollars a month to live in a closet. Trust me, San Francisco is just about the last place a poor person wants to be.

Also, all west coast cities have higher than normal homeless populations. Seattle and San Diego have really high numbers of homeless.
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Old 07-08-2016, 03:17 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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I would think of Safety first so Dubai, LA and depending on how poor NYC is out the window. I chose Tokyo because just from a Safety standpoint the poorest place in Tokyo metro area is still safer than most parts of LA and NYC. I have a relative who had the Nigerian mentality and tried to save as much money as possible in NYC, she was living in Brownsville, Brooklyn. Her brother came to her apartment and said that if this was the U.S he wanted to go back to Nigeria, as the safety was laughable. Their were shootings every other night. I am currently in Nigeria and in certain cities like Port Harcourt and Warri the amount of kidnappings and armed robberies makes Baltimore and New Orleans look like the candy store. Last month gangsters killed 40-50 people in four different shootings in Northern Port Harcourt and surrounding villages, and that area has about 200,000 to 300,000 people.
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Old 07-08-2016, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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I would think of Safety first so Dubai, LA and depending on how poor NYC is out the window. I chose Tokyo because just from a Safety standpoint the poorest place in Tokyo metro area is still safer than most parts of LA and NYC. I have a relative who had the Nigerian mentality and tried to save as much money as possible in NYC, she was living in Brownsville, Brooklyn. Her brother came to her apartment and said that if this was the U.S he wanted to go back to Nigeria, as the safety was laughable. Their were shootings every other night. I am currently in Nigeria and in certain cities like Port Harcourt and Warri the amount of kidnappings and armed robberies makes Baltimore and New Orleans look like the candy store. Last month gangsters killed 40-50 people in four different shootings in Northern Port Harcourt and surrounding villages, and that area has about 200,000 to 300,000 people.
At least in the USA you can find friends and respect if you try hard, will be a lot harder in Tokyo especially if your poor and black, no offense.
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Old 07-08-2016, 09:32 AM
 
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Having a lot of homeless people doesn't mean it's a good place to be poor or homeless. The Tenderloin is where SF concentrates the services it has so they concentrate there. That's also a very high crime neighborhood. Many of the homeless in SF are mentally ill. Some homeless were given one way tickets to SF. In fact, the city sued the state of Nevada over that practice. San Francisco has one of, if not the largest income disparities in the entire US. There are high-rise apartments where rich tech people live and then outdated places where average people live on an income that could get them something fairly decent elsewhere. Then there are the scores of homeless sleeping right out on the sidewalks which almost constantly smell of urine. The few shelters are always filled to capacity as are the food places for them. There was a story of a college kid I believe who paid 400 dollars a month to live in a closet. Trust me, San Francisco is just about the last place a poor person wants to be.

Also, all west coast cities have higher than normal homeless populations. Seattle and San Diego have really high numbers of homeless.
I do volunteer work with the Homeless in SD. I've interviewed some of them. Most are mentally ill or disabled. Some have lived very difficult experiences that they couldn't overcome (being sexually molested, beaten, etc.. ). Most who are on the West Coast have arrived from other states that are colder or hotter.

I remember a 60 year old autistic man who had no family and friends, but couldn't keep a job either because of his 'strange' social skills. He seemed like a really sensitive and innocent person, it broke my heart that he was out on the streets.

Did you hear about that psychopath in San Diego going around setting homeless people on fire? There are some very evil people out there.
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Old 07-08-2016, 09:41 AM
 
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LA, weather and CA has good programs for the extremely poor.
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Old 07-08-2016, 09:42 AM
 
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I do volunteer work with the Homeless in SD. I've interviewed some of them. Most are mentally ill or disabled. Some have lived very difficult experiences that they couldn't overcome (being sexually molested, beaten, etc.. ). Most who are on the West Coast have arrived from other states that are colder or hotter.

I remember a 60 year old autistic man who had no family and friends, but couldn't keep a job either because of his 'strange' social skills. He seemed like a really sensitive and innocent person, it broke my heart that he was out on the streets.

Did you hear about that psychopath in San Diego going around setting homeless people on fire? There are some very evil people out there.
Sounds very similar to San Francisco's homeless population and SD also doesn't have enough services for them. That area right up the street from 12th and Imperial Trolley Station is San Diego's version of the Tenderloin.

They arrested that sick bastard who set those homeless people on fire. It's not the first time homeless people have been victims of crimes like this either. It happens in San Francisco too.
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Old 07-08-2016, 09:43 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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LA, weather and CA has good programs for the extremely poor.
With the exception of certain cities, none of the well known ones, no it doesn't.
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Old 07-08-2016, 10:15 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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LA has cleaned up this a lot. Come on, this isn't 1992.
L.A. crime hits highest point since 2009 amid more gang violence and homelessness - LA Times

Whilst it might not be 1992, LA still has some real issues, as do some of the police and support for the poorest sections of society in the US often falls behind that of some other westernised nations.

Saying that LA has a decent climate and being warm is better than being cold if you are poor.
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Old 07-08-2016, 10:49 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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L.A. crime hits highest point since 2009 amid more gang violence and homelessness - LA Times

Whilst it might not be 1992, LA still has some real issues, as do some of the police and support for the poorest sections of society in the US often falls behind that of some other westernised nations.

Saying that LA has a decent climate and being warm is better than being cold if you are poor.
Let's be clear; are we talking about simply being poor, or being homeless?
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