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Not when I went to college, and it depends on the college. My kid’s college, in certain classes, if you pass the final with at least 60/100, they will fail you. It caused my kid lots of anxiety especially when they didn’t always tell my kid ahead of the exam. Her university is well known for expelling Chinese students who cheat, it’s in the top 100 universities per that link. In fact, they now have very clear instructions on what considered cheating.
Kids who grew up in America were taught very strictly about cheating, my kids had to use turnitin software to check and make sure nothing she turned in was copied somewhere. She had to do that practically all through high school. I don’t know how stritch other countries are with their students.
Btw, Chinese students cheat more than American Students, there’s an article on Wall Street Journal about this. Google for it.
No, every class has a syllabus stating the criteria, and if you meet the requirements it is "illegal" to fail you. For example, if your mid term and final exams average over 60/100, and your homework assignments also have a pass score, it is impossible to fail. When the whole class is terrible, there might be a "curving" to push scores higher.
Don't take kids' complaints for granted. As you know they like to blame others for their own loss. As a TA I have endless stories to tell you. e.g. One girl stole her exam paper from me after she felt she did not do well. Another guy changed his answer after I handed out the graded exam, and he did not know I make photocopies.
American universities accept many (not all) garbage students from China, who cannot go to any decent college in their home country. So yes, these students tend to fail/cheat more than American students.
However, in tier 2 universities, the PhD students from China outperform American counterparts by far. They usually graduate from top universities in China.
Students going in for an AA or BA degree are subject to much less scrutiny than grad students. There are far more of them, and most universities lack the resources to extend extra effort doing forensic checks on their backgrounds, especially when it comes to China and other nations who have different record keeping systems and where parents with enough face and money can almost totally fabricate their idiot kids' academic backgrounds to appear glorious. I'd wager the vast majority of students who (successfully) cheat their way through school generally don't pursue much further education.
Cheating is endemic in Chinese high schools and undergrad programs and anyone who says they aren't is a fool. However, part of the reason for this is that in China, similar to the US, the attitude from the middle class is that a BA is the bare minimum requirement for achieving a base level of intrinsic value. The honest truth is that not everyone is intellectually or socially fit to pursue academia, but society basically demands it. Because you have legions of people who would be much better suited to other paths who instead are pushed into an environment that doesn't suit them, they resort to other means, such as cheating, to survive in such an environment. Add to this the intense pressure on these students due to China's values of filial piety with are largely incompatible with modern (and/or Western) life, and here we are.
Students who wish to apply for a PhD program tend to actually be academically inclined to get to that point, and also be thoroughly vetted and also have a large body of academic works behind them to reference. I wouldn't expect a Chinese PhD student to have cheated their way through school any more than an American PhD student.
Students going in for an AA or BA degree are subject to much less scrutiny than grad students. There are far more of them, and most universities lack the resources to extend extra effort doing forensic checks on their backgrounds, especially when it comes to China and other nations who have different record keeping systems and where parents with enough face and money can almost totally fabricate their idiot kids' academic backgrounds to appear glorious. I'd wager the vast majority of students who (successfully) cheat their way through school generally don't pursue much further education.
Cheating is endemic in Chinese high schools and undergrad programs and anyone who says they aren't is a fool. However, part of the reason for this is that in China, similar to the US, the attitude from the middle class is that a BA is the bare minimum requirement for achieving a base level of intrinsic value. The honest truth is that not everyone is intellectually or socially fit to pursue academia, but society basically demands it. Because you have legions of people who would be much better suited to other paths who instead are pushed into an environment that doesn't suit them, they resort to other means, such as cheating, to survive in such an environment. Add to this the intense pressure on these students due to China's values of filial piety with are largely incompatible with modern (and/or Western) life, and here we are.
Students who wish to apply for a PhD program tend to actually be academically inclined to get to that point, and also be thoroughly vetted and also have a large body of academic works behind them to reference. I wouldn't expect a Chinese PhD student to have cheated their way through school any more than an American PhD student.
I agree.
In addition there is also a difference of evaluation methods between the two cultures. In China, the college entrance exam (gaokao) is almost the only thing that matters for college admissions. As a result, there is no strict rules for high school transcripts, recommendations, or any activities on CV. People just do not care whether you brag/cheat on them or not.
On the other hand, American universities do look on those things, so there is a gap.
Nowadays some American/European universities ask for gaokao results too.
"This year’s list of the best universities in the world is led by the University of Oxford and the University of Cambridge for the second year in a row."
Top 100 doesn't matter. Like the Fortune 100, the real power is in the very top of the list. It should be more like Top 25. A school that's ranked 88th globally is nowhere close to Harvard or Princeton or Oxford, and shouldn't be equally weighed as such.
Of the Top 25, the truly elite universities, we have, using the Academic Ranking of World Universities:
18 American universities
4 British universities
1 each of Japan, Canada and Switzerland
According to Times Higher Education's rankings:
17 American universities
4 British universities
1 each of Canada, China and Singapore
US News World University Rankings gets us:
19 American universities
4 British universities
1 each of Canada and Switzerland
Remarkably stable, and still continued American/British dominance.
And, for awareness, here are the elite universities that rank within the Top 25 in all 3 rankings, ordered alphabetically:
California Institute of Technology
Columbia University
Cornell University
Harvard University
Imperial College London
Johns Hopkins University
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Northwestern University
Princeton University
Stanford University
University College London
University of California, Berkeley
University of California, Los Angeles
University of Cambridge
University of Chicago
University of Oxford
University of Toronto
Yale University
So these 18 are the true "elite" universities and 13 are in the USA, 4 are in the United Kingdom and one is in Canada.
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Top 100 universities breakdown by countries/territories
40 - United States
11 - United Kingdom
8 - Germany
6 - Australia
7 - Netherlands
5 - Canada
4 - Switzerland
3 - China, Hong Kong, France
2 - Singapore, Japan, Sweden, South Lorea
1 - Belgium, Finland
Top 100 doesn't matter. Like the Fortune 100, the real power is in the very top of the list. It should be more like Top 25. A school that's ranked 88th globally is nowhere close to Harvard or Princeton or Oxford, and shouldn't be equally weighed as such.
Of the Top 25, the truly elite universities, we have, using the Academic Ranking of World Universities:
18 American universities
4 British universities
1 each of Japan, Canada and Switzerland
According to Times Higher Education's rankings:
17 American universities
4 British universities
1 each of Canada, China and Singapore
US News World University Rankings gets us:
19 American universities
4 British universities
1 each of Canada and Switzerland
Remarkably stable, and still continued American/British dominance.
And, for awareness, here are the elite universities that rank within the Top 25 in all 3 rankings, ordered alphabetically:
California Institute of Technology
Columbia University
Cornell University
Harvard University
Imperial College London
Johns Hopkins University
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Northwestern University
Princeton University
Stanford University
University College London
University of California, Berkeley
University of California, Los Angeles
University of Cambridge
University of Chicago
University of Oxford
University of Toronto
Yale University
So these 18 are the true "elite" universities and 13 are in the USA, 4 are in the United Kingdom and one is in Canada.
Yup and don't forget about the super elite liberal arts colleges unique to the US as well. Williams, Wellesley, Amherst, Bowdoin, and Vassar among others hold tons of influence relative to their size.
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