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I am going to filter through what seems to be misconceptions you have.
1. I haven't written anywhere the statement "Mexicans love Americans".
2. Upper class South Americans cannot just change a system that evolved out of European colonialism and racial castes overnight, it is not like one day a rich person in Bogota wakes up and decides it all should equal from now on. It is generational social change, it takes decades.
3. South Americans don't like to be viewed as Mexicans by clueless Americans, because they are NOT Mexicans. Please spare me from your emotional rant and accusations of racism etc.
4. Latin america is too diverse and unequal. Many are oppressed as we speak, you are not doing anything to hear their plight if you insist they are just latinos.
I am not insisting they are just Latinos. Talk about emotional you are the one that comes on here ranting about the same thing all the time. Do you think Central Americans and Mexicans love being associated with Colombians? Get over yourself. You say you don't look to America yet you ***** and complain about how Americans view you all the time.
Interesting so Mexicans are not as proamerican as Colombians. So much for Irenes theory. Must be why he/she worries so much about being called Latino.
Mexico hates the US at this moment for rather obvious reasons, while the US is seen as a helper to eradicate a lot of the cartel violence in Colombia. And Colombia is probably the most pro-American government in South America
Mexico hates the US at this moment for rather obvious reasons, while the US is seen as a helper to eradicate a lot of the cartel violence in Colombia. And Colombia is probably the most pro-American government in South America
Mexico hates the US at this moment for rather obvious reasons, while the US is seen as a helper to eradicate a lot of the cartel violence in Colombia. And Colombia is probably the most pro-American government in South America
actually it is a pretty questionable assertion. Map related:
for one, many people thinks that there are US military bases in Colombia, which is not true.
According to the most recent figures, there were more US military personnel deployed in Chile than in Colombia.
The economic exchange between Colombia and the USA is not larger than that of other SA countries. And Colombia is strenghtening its relations with China. A Chinese company will built the first metro line in Bogota. President Duque visited China recently, and was one of the few foreign leaders visiting China to do an offer to the Heroes of the Chinese Revolution:
Colombia is generally pro-US but don't be mistaken. This doesn't translate into a desire to follow a US stance on either domestic affairs or foreign policy.
The US also has great confidence in the Colombian millitary / navy and have historically trained but also out-sourced operations to them. This stems back from World War II where Colombia was employed to defend the Panama Canal and was the only Latin American country to fight for a free South Korea. Many reports applaud that their courage was unmatched in the arena.
More recently US, British and Israeli specialits have trained forces under 'Plan Colombia' whilst also sharing intelligence. This as well as Colombia's admitance into NATO's partner program has continued this confidence without the need for US bases in Colombia.
Other countries who are many times at odds with the US such as Venezuela and Brazil are far more US-centric than Colombia is.
Colombia is generally pro-US but don't be mistaken. This doesn't translate into a desire to follow a US stance on either domestic affairs or foreign policy.
The US also has great confidence in the Colombian millitary / navy and have historically trained but also out-sourced operations to them. This stems back from World War II where Colombia was employed to defend the Panama Canal and was the only Latin American country to fight for a free South Korea. Many reports applaud that their courage was unmatched in the arena.
More recently US, British and Israeli specialits have trained forces under 'Plan Colombia' whilst also sharing intelligence. This as well as Colombia's admitance into NATO's partner program has continued this confidence without the need for US bases in Colombia.
Other countries who are many times at odds with the US such as Venezuela and Brazil are far more US-centric than Colombia is.
Weren't American military personnel directly involved in actions during plan Colombia? How are Brazilians and Venezuelans more US centric than Colombia?
Weren't American military personnel directly involved in actions during plan Colombia? How are Brazilians and Venezuelans more US centric than Colombia?
Nope never. All operations have been and are undertaken by Colombian armed forces. The US, UK, NATO etc. have an intelligence, training and funding role only.
Venezuela and Brazil are more consumerist and socially superficial societies, they look to the US far more. This is probably why Marxist Revisionism took such a hold on these societies as a rebuke to the ever increasing social disparity. Old habits die hard however, blackberry was absolutely huge in Venezuela, many choosing to get this phone over food in uts hey day. Baseball, US music & brands have far more acceptance in Venezuela, Brazil and even Chile in the 2 latter than in Colombia.
Traditional expressions that are revered and valued in Colombia are all but died out in Venezuela and given lesser importances in Brazil. Colombia is very much an inwardly progressive country as opposed to Brazil which is more insular yet perpetrates loose eurocentric values more like the States. Indigenous groups and Afro groups have more legal land rights in Colombia than in Brazil and more importantly there's more public support for this despite the difficulty in implementation due to a combination of the drug trade, difficult topography and insurgent groups.
In the environment Colombia also performs better, there is more of a social consciencenous in recycling, reducing the carbon footprint when moving around, protecting the natural environment. These are all progressive traits mostly shared with European administrations than the current US one. This is not to say Colombians don't like its shopping malls or spending on personal grooming to look nice BUT there's a stronger traditionally focused counter-weight with more emphasis placed on roots of origin. And even in the malls and high street, it's Colombian brands or independents that dominate. The opposite is true in countries like Chile and Panama.
Colombia is also a more agrarian society. The 'campesino' and small farm holdings are very much a part of Colombian identity in contrast to large corporate agro-industry found in Brazil. In the case of Venezuela agriculture is practically non-existent neither the cultural expressions this lifestyle produces.
Urban planning is also far more compact as opposed to motorised like the sprawl of Brazilian or Venezuelan cities. Colombia actually has some of the densest cities in the world which are better for pedestrians not to mention Colombia has the highest bicyle ridership of any country in the Western hemisphere and large networks of cycle routes to accomodate that similar to European cities.
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Venezuela and Brazil are more consumerist and socially superficial societies, they look to the US far more. This is probably why Marxist Revisionism took such a hold on these societies as a rebuke to the ever increasing social disparity. Old habits die hard however, blackberry was absolutely huge in Venezuela, many choosing to get this phone over food in uts hey day. Baseball, US music & brands have far more acceptance in Venezuela, Brazil and even Chile in the 2 latter than in Colombia.
I actually have noticed this too. Makes sense.
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Do you think Central Americans and Mexicans love being associated with Colombians? Get over yourself. 
You say you don't look to America yet you ***** and complain about how Americans view you all the time.
