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Old 12-29-2019, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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The constitution does afford Americans more freedoms in some cases.

Although this comes with positives as well as negatives.

Obviously there is a debate regadring the Second Amendment, although it is amusing to see youtubers in the US pointing there cameras at places and people, only for the police to be called, and then the police to have to tell the complainant that the individual is protected by the First Amendment.

It's also interesting to see American shout and swear at the police in public.

The police in other countries are far more likely to arrest you for public order, harrasment or causing alarm or distress and other similar offences in such circumstances.
Every one of the Ten Amendments has been denied, to some extent, by what is now settled law. Government can regulate, if not prohibit the erxercise of freedom which the people are granted only in exchange for good behavior.

Set a chair down with a sign "Haircuts $5" and let them read you the long list of rights you do not have. Just today, in another thread, I pointed out that it a criminal offense to watch a Youtube video that is destined to be removed tomorrow for infringement. You have the burden to verify its licensure before viewing, even if it's a blind link in this forum.

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Old 12-29-2019, 07:33 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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Every one of the Ten Amendments has been denied, to some extent, by what is now settled law. Government can regulate, if not prohibit the erxercise of freedom which the people are granted only in exchange for good behavior.

Set a chair down with a sign "Haircuts $5" and let them read you the long list of rights you do not have.
The UK has been a part of the European Covention on Human Rights (ECHR) since 1953 and these rights always took judicial precedent over British Law and cases were resolved in the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg including cases against Goernments. In 1998 the ECHR became fully enshrined in to British Law.

We do have rights in the UK and Europe, indeed Aricle 2 which relates to the right to life offers far greater protection in respect of trigger happy police.

Under the ECHR the police can only use lethal force when absolutely necessary and this requires all other means where possible have been exhausted first. The death penalty is also banned under the ECHR and it is illegal to extradite prisoners who face the death penalty or torture. It is also illegal to supply any drugs or equipment that many be used in realtion to the death penalty, which is why European pharma companies won't supply lethal injection drugs to the US.

So it's not as simple as the US has a constitution and the rest of the world don't have rights. In terms of public order, it only becomes an issue if you are infringing on the rights of others through harrassment or causing them alarm, distress or fear or provocation of violence. Racial and religious factors may also be aggravating factors in terms of public order.

European Convention on Human Rights - Wikipedia

Human Rights Act 1998 - Wikipedia


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