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I just saw the Italian numbers for today, 5300+ new cases today, that's incredible for a country which has been completely shut down and where people don't leave their homes anymore. Even the few odd ones that do can't account for 5300+ new infections. Something eerie is going on. I hope we have not overlooked another way of transmission that is unaffected by our current approaches.
I agree.
I've been watching this thing (CV) unfolding in a slow mo already for a long time.
No matter who says what, Russians DID NOT close the border with China right away, after the CV started mushrooming in Wuhan. The border was quite porous, with a lot of traffic - buses, cars, ( not just airplanes.)
So I was expecting the CV to mushroom in Russia ( at least Eastern part) soon after that, but nope. What's even more strange, the whole group of 140 people that were scooped up from Wuhan ( the epicenter of it all,) were quarantined for 14 days, tested, but the results came negative.
Yet the cases of infection started multiplying in Russians that returned FROM ITALY. It became obvious right away.
Maybe a different, nastier strand, maybe with a longer incubation period.
I have heard an expert say that the virus mutates every two weeks or so, and given the geographical distribution, that multiplies considerably.
for as long as they literally pee in the channels of Venice and drink from dirty tap water, the virus won't fade out...most viruses have some survival time in water, especially in cold water.
Maybe a different, nastier strand, maybe with a longer incubation period.
I have heard an expert say that the virus mutates every two weeks or so, and given the geographical distribution, that multiplies considerably.
I wonder sometimes whether the "genetic makeup" has anything to do with it, and not just "different stands" of the virus alone.
There seems to be a Latin vs Germanic divide in Europe, the former have much higher mortality rates.
But maybe it is just coincidence or the result of different healthcare systems.
There seems to be a Latin vs Germanic divide in Europe, the former have much higher mortality rates.
But maybe it is just coincidence or the result of different healthcare systems.
Also, men are far more affected than women.
I took note of this already too.
(And then there is Iran, with much younger population overall.)
Yea, it's possible. However, it wasn't the ability to counter the effects of the virus itself, but planning for how to track the spread of the virus, what precautions to take, and clearly communicating all of that that worked.
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Yea, it's possible. However, it wasn't the ability to counter the effects of the virus itself, but planning for how to track the spread of the virus, what precautions to take, and clearly communicating all of that that worked.
If a stronger strain indeed does come back I would prefer to catch it this time around and develop some anti-bodies towards it. I know not everybody can afford that luxury as there are people with underlying health conditions but I'm in favour of the herd immunity theory as long as elderly and vulnerable people are isolated BUT well looked after. At least until a safe vaccine is developed for those at risk populations.
If a stronger strain indeed does come back I would prefer to catch it this time around and develop some anti-bodies towards it. I know not everybody can afford that luxury as there are people with underlying health conditions but I'm in favour of the herd immunity theory as long as elderly and vulnerable people are isolated BUT well looked after. At least until a safe vaccine is developed for those at risk populations.
Eh, I prefer containing it early and smartly so it’s not too disruptive and meanwhile work on vaccines or cures.
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