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Old 10-06-2021, 05:36 AM
 
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In high demand such that they are taking extraodinary efforts to recruit them from abroad?
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Old 10-06-2021, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Plague Island
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South Korea if I'm not mistaken.
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Old 10-08-2021, 12:50 AM
 
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In most countries, they now require certification now.

If you have no formal TEFL training, you might be able to get free training and a certificate by volunteerung to teach immigrants in your city..
Brazil used to be good, Maybe Cambodie.

I've heard lots of horror stories about Korea, unfulfilled contracts and horrible living conditions.
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Old 10-10-2021, 08:53 PM
 
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Default yeah, have also heard..

That S. Korea is bad in the way you are treated.
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Old 10-10-2021, 08:54 PM
 
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In most countries, they now require certification now.

If you have no formal TEFL training, you might be able to get free training and a certificate by volunteerung to teach immigrants in your city..
Brazil used to be good, Maybe Cambodie.

I've heard lots of horror stories about Korea, unfulfilled contracts and horrible living conditions.
The other caveat is that I don't see how you can competently teach English, if you have no knowledge in the local language. They SAY it's not required, but I think to do a good job it is.
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Old 10-11-2021, 03:30 AM
 
Location: Belgrade, Serbia
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I think to do a good job it is.
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If you have no formal TEFL training,
Not the most important thing for many jobs, you can still get great jobs without this.
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Old 10-11-2021, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Norteh Bajo Americano
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I hate that in s Korea, the starting pay has not increased in the last 15 years. I first went in 2016 and I was making monthly 2.1mill won. It's that much or less. wtf?

I did public, got a tefl, got after school work and side work through school and was making 3.5mill into my 3rd and 4th year, but was burnt out with all the extra work.

I dont know if publics are attractive these days. My first year was pretty much the first foreign teacher for publics. 10 to 15 years later, I wonder if the investment was worth it.
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Old 11-09-2021, 08:35 AM
 
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China but the pay is low by Western standards!
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Old 11-09-2021, 02:01 PM
 
Location: BC Canada
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I have heard horror stories about ESL teacher experiences in Korea and China.

Not getting the negotiated wages, very long work hours, poor pay, poor and abusive management, and substandard housing. Those countries also have a stellar reputation of not providing the return fare and agreed upon end of contract pay outs which is normal in the industry. Japan is considered the "choice" country in Asia by a long shot which is why there are far fewer opportunities there...........all the ESL teachers want to go to Japan while trying to avoid China & S. Korea like the plague.

I have heard that most Latin American countries are pretty good and especially the wealthier southern ones of Argentina, Uruguay, and Chile. Saudi Arabia/Dubai are known for offering the highest wages and excellent living accommodation but many {especially women} find the culture shock too big and downright oppressive.
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Old 11-09-2021, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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I have heard horror stories about ESL teacher experiences in Korea and China.

Not getting the negotiated wages, very long work hours, poor pay, poor and abusive management, and substandard housing. Those countries also have a stellar reputation of not providing the return fare and agreed upon end of contract pay outs which is normal in the industry. Japan is considered the "choice" country in Asia by a long shot which is why there are far fewer opportunities there...........all the ESL teachers want to go to Japan while trying to avoid China & S. Korea like the plague.
Probably in the 2000s but not anymore. Japan has not been an attractive destination for ESL for a while because the pay is not all that much higher, but cost of living is. China and Korea were by far the most popular in much of the 2010s but that is no longer the case because a) covid and b) China became extremely hostile to foreigners in recent years.

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I have heard that most Latin American countries are pretty good and especially the wealthier southern ones of Argentina, Uruguay, and Chile.
It is pretty good if you don't mind making like $800/month.

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