Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Writing
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 01-26-2010, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
88,669 posts, read 84,974,162 times
Reputation: 115227

Advertisements

As most of you on this forum probably are, I am fascinating by the English language and its origins.

One particular area that I've always found curious are place names. I've known for a long time that place names ending in chester, cester or caster come from the Latin for castle, and I know that places ending in "mouth" were because the villages that originally carried those names were situated at the mouth of a river. For example, I live in Monmouth County, named for Monmouth in Wales, a town situated on the Mon river.

I was curious about some others, though, and I looked them up. Here's what I found.

"Wich" or "wick" was a place where salt beds could be found, mostly near the sea, of course, but there are also others inland in England. They are the dried beds of ancient bays and seas.

"Hurst" refers to a grove of trees on a hill.

"Town" or "ton" is from the Old English "tun", which meant a walled or enclosed village and in turn seems to come from a Saxon word for fence.

"Bury" or "borough" is from "burh", a fort.

Place names ending in "by" were from the Danish for village. One example I found is that Derby was "Deor by" - the deer village.

I found this interesting. Hope you did, to!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 01-31-2010, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Winston-Salem, NC
23 posts, read 38,911 times
Reputation: 36
Very interesting. I'm curious about "burg" and "ville". I'm going to go out on a limb and say that burg is a variation of "bury" and ville is a shortening of village? Did you see anything about them?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-31-2010, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
88,669 posts, read 84,974,162 times
Reputation: 115227
Quote:
Originally Posted by waxingpoetic75 View Post
Very interesting. I'm curious about "burg" and "ville". I'm going to go out on a limb and say that burg is a variation of "bury" and ville is a shortening of village? Did you see anything about them?
No, but I would guess that to be the same as you do.

I did think of Edinburgh, Scotland, and how that is pronounced "Edinburra", which is likely close to the original "burh".

Now there's another thread idea--where DO all those miscelleanous "gh" combinations come from? You know, through, rough, ghost, laughter, daughter...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-03-2010, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
40,050 posts, read 34,632,352 times
Reputation: 10622
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mightyqueen801 View Post
Now there's another thread idea--where DO all those miscelleanous "gh" combinations come from? You know, through, rough, ghost, laughter, daughter...
...Which, for some strange reason, put me in mind of a short story written years ago by Theodore Geisel (who started using his middle name, and became much better known as Dr. Seuss). The story was built around words that ended in "ough" but not pronounced the same way, and titled The Tough Coughs as he Ploughs the Dough.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Writing

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top