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Old 03-01-2018, 11:24 AM
 
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In 2015 the official king of South Africa’s Zulu tribe said that that country was economically, militarily, and socially better before black rule—and that history will judge blacks as only having destroyed everything that they had inherited from the white government.

This was a pretty harsh - and bold -prediction, but with South Africa’s new president, Cyril Ramaphosa, pledging to continue the appropriation of farmland from whites without compensation, will it come to pass?

Do you foresee a resurgence of agricultural and economic prosperity as a result of this policy, a necessary act of justice, or both?
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Old 03-01-2018, 03:03 PM
 
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Commies doing what Commies do. Expect SA to have a run of "bad luck".

“Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.

This is known as "bad luck.”

Robert Heinlein
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Old 03-01-2018, 03:34 PM
 
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According to the new President, they will pretty much stick with the existing policy of "market-based" land reform. However, that has not being going well under current policies. There needs to be some new thinking about how to help non-white farmers become more productive in economic terms, no matter how the land is "transferred" to them through market-based programs or uncompensated land siezures/transfers.
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Old 03-01-2018, 04:35 PM
 
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The New President is a very sucessful businessman and is believed to be worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He is not a marxist like Mugabe was. He does want South Africa to have a free market economy but the Blacks playing a bigger role in it.
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Old 03-01-2018, 05:40 PM
 
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Comrade Cyril was the president of the ANC - one doesn't get to be president of a communist party without certain, um, beliefs...

On 20 May 2012, prominent Afrikaner ANC member Derek Hanekom asked Ramaphosa to run for President of the ANC, stating that "We need leaders of comrade Cyril's caliber..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyril_Ramaphosa
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Old 03-02-2018, 07:56 AM
 
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In 2015 the official king of South Africa’s Zulu tribe said that that country was economically, militarily, and socially better before black rule—and that history will judge blacks as only having destroyed everything that they had inherited from the white government.

This was a pretty harsh - and bold -prediction, but with South Africa’s new president, Cyril Ramaphosa, pledging to continue the appropriation of farmland from whites without compensation, will it come to pass?

Do you foresee a resurgence of agricultural and economic prosperity as a result of this policy, a necessary act of justice, or both?
South Africa won't be Wakanda that's for sure. The situation is untenable in the long term. Blacks are a majority yet earn and control a fraction of the wealth as whites and other groups. They will be prime targets for rabble rousers for years to come.
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Old 03-02-2018, 08:00 AM
 
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The New President is a very sucessful businessman and is believed to be worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He is not a marxist like Mugabe was. He does want South Africa to have a free market economy but the Blacks playing a bigger role in it.
He got rich by being given stakes in already established major companies under black economic empowerment schemes. He was a union boss and the stakes were essentially bribes to keep the unions mollified. It's not like he created these businesses. I suppose he should be credited for not running them into the ground.
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Old 03-02-2018, 10:26 AM
 
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In 2015 the official king of South Africa’s Zulu tribe said that that country was economically, militarily, and socially better before black rule—and that history will judge blacks as only having destroyed everything that they had inherited from the white government.
I wanted to know if this was true so I search this up but the way this was written was almost like your quoting artcle.

I decided to search this up the entire whole quote...... word by world from "in" - "government" literally, So I copy and past and google..... it took me to a white nationalists forum call "storefront"..... A thread from 2016 in which word by word it start off by the OP with the same quote as above in which word by word it was quoting a racist alt right article site. Yep your quoting a racist site.... don't know if you know that.

Some of the other articles from the site in which that quote is from......
  • "706,913 Nonwhite Invaders applied for “Asylum” in Europe during 2017"
  • "UK: Muslim Terrorists Kill 35, Injure 377—But Police and Media Hysterical over “Neo-Nazis”"
  • "ADL’s “Anti-Semitic Incident” Report includes Jokes, Neighbor Disputes—and Threats made by Jews"
  • "AFRICA South Africa: ANC Teams up with Radical Anti-White Party on White Land Seizure"
  • "ALL NEWS Australia: Africans Terrorize 10 Premises in Renewed Melbourne Crime Blitz"
  • "ALL NEWS Baltimore Businesses Collapsing under Black Crime Plague"
  • "ALL NEWS Blacks Resort to Jewish “Wakanda” Fiction to Deny Africa’s Backwardness"
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Old 03-02-2018, 10:36 AM
 
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I understand economically, and militarily........ but when I saw "Socially" better. I knew something was weird.
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Old 03-02-2018, 03:52 PM
 
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I understand economically, and militarily........ but when I saw "Socially" better. I knew something was weird.
If you consider crime to be a social factor, than social fits too
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