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Old 11-16-2011, 05:07 PM
 
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Part of an article I just read about the Albany semiconductor industry....is it for real?

“Albany is the new Austin,” Mr. Malloy said.
Two decades ago, that city transformed itself into a poster child of the semiconductor industry, luring Sematech there in 1987. Since then, Texas' investments in manufacturing decreased as other high-tech sectors, like software, took off. Sematech traded Texas' capital for New York's.
“Albany is at a tipping point,” Sematech's Mr. Armbrust said. “The desire to work across company boundaries created Silicon Valley. And that's what's happening here.”
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Cumberland Maine
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Be careful what you wish for. I've been in Austin for almost 20 years and have watched it deteriorate because of the influx of people. Our roads are now among the most congested, the housing prices have skyrocketed, and the former laid back attitude that made Austin special has been replaced by "must get to work and be powerful" attitude. Two more years and I retire and get out. I've even visited Glens Falls as a possible retirement site.
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Old 11-17-2011, 05:27 PM
 
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Be careful what you wish for. I've been in Austin for almost 20 years and have watched it deteriorate because of the influx of people. Our roads are now among the most congested, the housing prices have skyrocketed, and the former laid back attitude that made Austin special has been replaced by "must get to work and be powerful" attitude. Two more years and I retire and get out. I've even visited Glens Falls as a possible retirement site.
I was just viewing the Austin board, as I occassionally do, because there is so much hype there.

Sounds like most are looking for the 'next Austin' as they don't like what the 'current Austin' has become.

Your choice of somewhere most haven't heard of, is an excellent one. Probably a reflection of that fact you weren't originally attracted to Austin because of it being a fad.

When I was viewing the Austin posters who didn't like what Austin had become, and were talking about somewhere else to try out. Most were bringing up other super-fad cities as well like Portland, Santa Fe, etc.

Just ironic that people want to get out of Austin because they don't like the people it's attracting, than try to get to one that attracts the same kind of people.
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Old 11-18-2011, 12:20 AM
 
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Be careful what you wish for. I've been in Austin for almost 20 years and have watched it deteriorate because of the influx of people. Our roads are now among the most congested, the housing prices have skyrocketed, and the former laid back attitude that made Austin special has been replaced by "must get to work and be powerful" attitude. Two more years and I retire and get out. I've even visited Glens Falls as a possible retirement site.
Glens Falls? : eek:
Albany ??? :cryin g:

May I ask- what did you find appealing about these locations?
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Old 11-18-2011, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Cumberland Maine
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I only spent a week in upstate New York and divided the time between the Finger Lakes region and the Albany to Glens Falls region. My opinions of these areas are based on that limited exposure. I also just returned from visiting the Portland Maine area and found that interesting as well. What I'm looking for is a less congested area that still has access to major airports to get out of town. I'm old but oddly still very active (still play hockey with 20-year olds) and would like someplace to golf and fish in the summer, and snowshoe and ski in the winter. Also, Albany has great train service to Montreal, New York, and even Boston (or at least that's the impression I got from looking at Amtrak schedules). I grew up in Minnesota so I'm well versed in winter weather and that isn't a problem. My retirement location search is still in it's early stages so I will be revisiting both upstate New York and Portland to get a second view (perhaps in summer to see if the Maine black flies are as bad as people make them out to be), or in early February to see how people handle winter. Any suggestions?
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Old 11-18-2011, 07:44 AM
 
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I was just viewing the Austin board, as I occassionally do, because there is so much hype there.

Sounds like most are looking for the 'next Austin' as they don't like what the 'current Austin' has become.

Your choice of somewhere most haven't heard of, is an excellent one. Probably a reflection of that fact you weren't originally attracted to Austin because of it being a fad.

When I was viewing the Austin posters who didn't like what Austin had become, and were talking about somewhere else to try out. Most were bringing up other super-fad cities as well like Portland, Santa Fe, etc.

Just ironic that people want to get out of Austin because they don't like the people it's attracting, than try to get to one that attracts the same kind of people.

My brother had taught at the University of Texas in the early to mid 70s and I visited him several times. It was a liberal oasis that had a lot of interesting features. In the early 90s when I wanted to leave Washington D.C., Austin had the best job opportunities according to all the business journals. What they failed to mention was that the jobs were low paying (because so many people that attended UT never wanted to leave Austin and were willing to work cheaply to stay here), that most employers were looking for IT people (and I'm not one of them), and that they also usually hired young people. Experience was viewed as a negative by many employers I interviewed with. Austin is now quite conservative (although not perceived as such by Texas standards) and the overall congestion, rising prices, and deteriorating environment makes me very anxious to leave. So to respond to your comment about not moving here because it was a fad, that is absolutely true. I knew the city and had really liked it. I visited numerous times in the year before I left D.C. and made the decision based on what I was seeing. I wish City-Data had existed back then. I may have been forwarned.
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Old 11-18-2011, 08:00 AM
 
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I only spent a week in upstate New York and divided the time between the Finger Lakes region and the Albany to Glens Falls region. My opinions of these areas are based on that limited exposure. I also just returned from visiting the Portland Maine area and found that interesting as well. What I'm looking for is a less congested area that still has access to major airports to get out of town. I'm old but oddly still very active (still play hockey with 20-year olds) and would like someplace to golf and fish in the summer, and snowshoe and ski in the winter. Also, Albany has great train service to Montreal, New York, and even Boston (or at least that's the impression I got from looking at Amtrak schedules). I grew up in Minnesota so I'm well versed in winter weather and that isn't a problem. My retirement location search is still in it's early stages so I will be revisiting both upstate New York and Portland to get a second view (perhaps in summer to see if the Maine black flies are as bad as people make them out to be), or in early February to see how people handle winter. Any suggestions?
Don't get discouraged by that post. It sounds like Upstate NY fits you. Plattsburgh might be another area to look into. You would be close to Montreal, Burlington VT and I believe the airport there has quick flights to Boston and NYC. They love theirs Plattsburgh State Hockey up there and they are only Division 3.

You may also like Upstate locales like Oswego, Ithaca, Buffalo area communities like Lockport, Fredonia, Lewiston, etc. or Clinton. Hamilton, Cazenovia, Skaneateles, Potsdam, Canton, Brockport, Fairport and some others would probably work for you. Some of these communities are small, New England like villages and including colleges in many cases. Most have access to an international airport close by, as well as being in good locations for day trips. All are pretty big on hockey ranging from HS, college and up to the AHL and NHL(Buffalo).
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Old 11-18-2011, 08:44 AM
 
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Don't get discouraged by that post. It sounds like Upstate NY fits you. Plattsburgh might be another area to look into. You would be close to Montreal, Burlington VT and I believe the airport there has quick flights to Boston and NYC. They love theirs Plattsburgh State Hockey up there and they are only Division 3.

You may also like Upstate locales like Oswego, Ithaca, Buffalo area communities like Lockport, Fredonia, Lewiston, etc. or Clinton. Hamilton, Cazenovia, Skaneateles, Potsdam, Canton, Brockport, Fairport and some others would probably work for you. Some of these communities are small, New England like villages and including colleges in many cases. Most have access to an international airport close by, as well as being in good locations for day trips. All are pretty big on hockey ranging from HS, college and up to the AHL and NHL(Buffalo).
Skaneateles seemed a little pricey to me. I did like Auburn (especially the grocery store - very upscale). That was our headquarters for the four days around the Finger Lakes. Ithaca seemed very nice but we couldn't find any neighborhoods to look at housing. We kept going in circles until we finally headed south. Then it seemed like a lot of mansions until we hit look alike suburbs. So much to think about and it's so far away that we have to plan our trips carefully. That's why I spend a lot of time on forums trying to get a feel for areas.
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Old 11-18-2011, 10:09 AM
 
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Skaneateles seemed a little pricey to me. I did like Auburn (especially the grocery store - very upscale). That was our headquarters for the four days around the Finger Lakes. Ithaca seemed very nice but we couldn't find any neighborhoods to look at housing. We kept going in circles until we finally headed south. Then it seemed like a lot of mansions until we hit look alike suburbs. So much to think about and it's so far away that we have to plan our trips carefully. That's why I spend a lot of time on forums trying to get a feel for areas.
Skaneateles is on the pricey end, unless you go into the more rural areas. Auburn is generally. Same with Geneva and Canandaigua is really nice too. Waterloo and Seneca Falls are solid as well. Ithaca varies and is more affordable closer to Downtown.


I think you may like Plattsburgh, Oswego or some of the other locales near or on the water.
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Old 04-09-2012, 09:39 AM
 
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Be careful what you wish for. I've been in Austin for almost 20 years and have watched it deteriorate because of the influx of people. Our roads are now among the most congested, the housing prices have skyrocketed, and the former laid back attitude that made Austin special has been replaced by "must get to work and be powerful" attitude. Two more years and I retire and get out. I've even visited Glens Falls as a possible retirement site.
A close friend of mine retires from UT next year, and has the same plans. Get outta there. He said there have been some negative changes. I spent a week there visiting some friends. The traffic is bad for a smaller sized city.
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