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Old 05-09-2024, 11:51 AM
 
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Go figure with all of this stadium/mixed use development talk...

Eight-thousand-seat venue would anchor $300M hotel and entertainment district in what residents call the Parking Lot District

"The prospective owners of a planned professional soccer franchise in Albany want to build an 8,000-seat downtown stadium that would anchor a $300 million entertainment district of hotels, restaurants, apartments and more.

The as-yet-unnamed team would be an MLS Next Pro franchise principally owned by Business for Good founders Ed and Lisa Mitzen, plus a group of investors that includes real estate developers Jeff Buell and Chris Spraragen. The franchise already has support from MLS executives, who came to Albany on Thursday to meet with elected officials and the prospect of professional soccer in the Capital Region.

"The Capital Region has been on our radar for some time," said Charles Altchek, the league's president and an MLS executive vice president. "From a market perspective, we didn't have to be convinced."

The stadium alone would cost $75 million and be part of a district built in the Liberty Square area of downtown — a bleak and largely vacant neighborhood sarcastically known as the "Parking Lot District." Team officials said they expect to ask the state to help finance the project, though they emphasized that most of the funding would be from private investment.

The Mitzens and others involved with the project describe it as an opportunity to revitalize downtown and fill existing demands for new hotel and entertainment options.

MLS is hoping to have the Albany soccer stadium open in time for the 2026 season and timed to begin play in conjunction with the United States hosting the World Cup — an ambitious timeline. In the meantime, the team could potentially play temporarily at existing facilities at either the state University at Albany or Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in Troy, although neither scenario is considered ideal.

"We want to launch into the stadium for a whole host of reasons," Altchek said.

Reform Architecture in Troy has developed initial site plans and renderings of the 9-acre stadium district. Team officials have also been talking with Populous, the architecture firm responsible for Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in London and the new Buffalo Bills football stadium, about designing a stadium that would built to allow for future expansion and additional seating.

In addition to soccer, the facility could host concerts and other events that aren't large enough for MVP Arena or the Saratoga Performing Arts Center in Saratoga Springs. The additional events are considered key to the stadium's financial viability and the overall success of the entertainment district. The NextPro league expects to play a 28-game schedule in 2026, which would mean 14 home games, not including preseason, cup and playoff games.

Officials from the team said they hope to launch a women's professional franchise that would also play in the stadium. The rapidly growing National Women's Soccer League does not have a franchise in upstate New York but has a team in northern New Jersey and recently awarded a team to Boston.

Of course, the Capital Region has something of a mixed record with professional sports. The Tri-City ValleyCats in Troy have enjoyed substantial support, but the team recently lost its affiliation with Major League Baseball as part of a national contraction of the sport's minor leagues.

The Albany Devils, a New Jersey Devils affiliate, played at what is now MVP Arena. But attendance was poor and the team moved to Binghamton in 2017.

But the Mitzen group nevertheless contends that the region is ready to support a soccer franchise. For one, the sport is rapidly growing and is popular with age and demographic groups considered less interested in hockey and most other sports. They also contend that a franchise playing the world's most popular sport in a downtown Albany stadium would be primed for success in ways that other teams were not.

"MLS feels like the future," Mitzen said.

Buell said he became convinced of soccer's Capital Region viability after attending a St. Louis City FC game played last year in that city's soccer-specific stadium, which likewise anchors a mixed-use development district. The energy and passion for the team were infectious, Buell said, even though the franchise at that point had only been playing for a few months.

It is unclear whether state officials or Empire State Development would be willing to subsidize stadium construction or the project more broadly, but there is a history of state support for professional sports.

In 2012, when Andrew Cuomo was governor, the state contributed $54 million for a $130 million renovation of the Bills' Ralph Wilson Stadium. Erie County contributed an additional $41 million.

Ten years later, in 2022, Gov. Kathy Hochul agreed that the state would give $600 million toward the construction of an entirely new Buffalo Bills stadium to be built in suburban Orchard Park. The county kicked in an additional $250 million, and both the state and the county have promised additional spending in ongoing maintenance of the stadium expected to open in 2026.

Baseball stadiums for the New York Yankees and Mets, a hockey arena for the New York Islanders and a basketball arena for the Brooklyn Nets have also received varying degrees of state support that, taken together with the renovation of Madison Square Garden, totals nearly $400 million, according to the Buffalo-based Investigative Post.

On the other hand, a soccer-specific stadium being built in Queens for the New York City Football Club is credited for largely eschewing public subsidies other than infrastructure improvements and property tax breaks. That team, however, is under the umbrella of English Premier League side Manchester City and majority owned by Abu Dhabi Unity Group, an equity fund allegedly controlled by the Abu Dhabi government.

Albany team's prospective owners are not as flush. Ed Mitzen is the CEO and founder of Fingerpaint Marketing, a Saratoga Springs firm that specializes in health care and pharmaceutical advertising and promotion. Business for Good, meanwhile, is a nonprofit formed in 2020 to support businesses with a philanthropic focus, including the new Hattie's Restaurant on Madison Avenue in Albany.

That restaurant is within blocks of the soccer stadium site."

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Old 05-09-2024, 12:31 PM
 
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Pretty decent idea. Building apartments helps, and getting rid of the second biggest eyesore of the city would be a bonus.
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Old 05-10-2024, 01:22 PM
 
Location: ADK via WV
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That's pretty sweet! Would certainly be a shot in the arm for downtown.
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Old 05-10-2024, 01:28 PM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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Parking Lot District, lol. Could appropriate that nickname for use in downtown Buffalo
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Old Today, 09:28 AM
 
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A counter view about the project...

Leading sports economist has doubts about Albany soccer stadium proposal: https://www.timesunion.com/news/arti...ly%20headlines

Andrew Zimbalist, who has made a career pointing out flaws in major sports development projects, questioned how much public investment might actually be required for Albany's proposed soccer stadium.

"Andrew Zimbalist, a Smith College professor and one of the world’s foremost experts on (and skeptics of) sports construction as an engine for urban revitalization, does not share Albany leaders' enthusiasm for the proposed $300 million entertainment hub anchored by a minor league soccer stadium that was introduced to the public last week.

Development of the proposed site, the bleak collection of vacant lots sandwiched between the South Mall Arterial and Broadway, has been sought for years to remedy an obvious eyesore. But if such a major project would bring in jobs and money to the city of Albany is a dicey question, Zimbalist said.

“If the project is planned properly and financed properly and the city’s characteristics are amenable then it can be fiscally neutral or even a modest plus — but that’s usually not the case,” said Zimbalist, who is a professor of economics. “The typical case is that there’s a fiscal loss for the city and it doesn’t create net jobs.”

In a career spanning five decades, Zimbalist has emerged as perhaps the leading critic of municipal attempts to attract major sporting spectacles like the Olympics and World Cup. He has also questioned attempts by cities to rejuvenate disinvested areas by building facilities to attract a professional sports team. Much of his work centers on major league-level development and global events in larger markets.

Plans announced Thursday call for constructing an 8,000-seat soccer stadium in the Liberty Square section of downtown, what has long been called the Parking Lot District for its selection of gravely lots. The nine-acre complex would also feature restaurants, shops and hotels. Business for Good founders Ed and Lisa Mitzen, plus a group of investors that includes real estate developers Jeff Buell and Chris Spraragen, would own the as-yet-unnamed MLS Next Pro team that would play at least 14 home games a year at the stadium.

Major League Soccer has expressed significant support for the project. “The Capital Region has been on our radar for some time,” said Charles Altchek, the league’s president and an MLS executive vice president. “From a market perspective, we didn’t have to be convinced.”

Backers have said the majority of the construction would be privately financed — though team officials have said they would plan to ask the state to provide some funds.

“You can’t simply say this is going to be largely private finance and then sit around and hope for a private investor to come along,” Zimbalist said. “Usually what they have to do is they grant tax concessions and those concessions or abatements usually end up creating additional fiscal stress on the city.”

Zimbalist also questioned how many new businesses might be lured to the new complex.

“The other thing that often happens is that a business will move from one part of the city into this new complex and it doesn’t actually create any money for the city, it just shifts the locus of where the tax money is coming from,” Zimbalist said. “If that tax revenue is simply replacing tax revenue that comes from elsewhere in the city, there’s no net gain for the city.”

With plans still in the very early stages, it is unclear how much in direct subsidies or tax abatements developers will seek and how much city, county and state leaders will be prepared to spend. State and county subsidies for the construction of the new Buffalo Bills stadium in Orchard Park amount to nearly $1 billion. Minor league soccer is in a different financial universe than an NFL franchise, but Zimbalist said there are reasons to be leery of claims about private financing.

“If a city is willing to give away benefits that are worth millions of dollars and call it privately financed then it is a little bit misleading, or it’s a lot misleading.”

Planners want to have the stadium built by 2026 in order to capitalize on an expected wave of enthusiasm for soccer as the United States, Canada and Mexico host the Wold Cup that year.

Zimbalist believes that ambitious timeline is possible, with some caveats.

Assuming the area does not need extensive remediation and no significant archaeological discoveries are made —the proposed complex’s site is adjacent to the oldest house in Albany —Zimbalist believes that an 8,000-seat stadium can be built by 2026.

“It’s a narrow timeframe, but it’s possible,” he said."


I think what he says make sense, but this is why attracting businesses/companies/attractions not currently in the area is key for developments like this, as they offer something new or different.

I'm also wondering if the private investment may come from a team versus just a single investor, given that the article itself mentions multiple names involved.
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