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...lends credibility to the idea that City Data...or at least this section of CD... is nothing more than an elaborate, interactive advertisement for Realtors.
As opposed to a meeting place for locals and visitors to interact.
By keeping silent about these issues you hurt no one but City Data.
Prospective visitors and soon-to-be residents of Albuquerque WILL LEARN ABOUT THESE CRIMES (just like I did) from sources outside CD and ask themselves why no one here mentioned this to them before they moved.
You can erase this post too if you feel I am personally 'attacking' someone but, again, City Data is the only one who will suffer from expelling or censoring reasonable guests.
And the fact remains that City Data *has* just received a severe blow to it's credibility ...at least in one person's eyes.
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guess what...they just recently found a little boy buried in a park and a couple months back they found a lady buried in her back yard on top of those 12 bodies that were buried in the SW Mesa, I guess when you burry a body its not a guarantee it wont be found.
No offense, but I wouldn't worry much about crime either if I lived in Londonberry, NH, pop.12,000.
You might have a slight change of conscience if 12 mutliated bodies appeared outside your town though.
No - but he's right - weird stuff like that does happen everywhere...and it's been happening for a long time. Unfortunately, no matter what city or town it happens in anymore the sensationalism of the story fades away as quickly as it surfaced. People look for the new news.
Last year 5 innocent women were shot point blank in a Lane Bryant store in Tinley Park, Illinois, but that was off the national news radar within about a week.
Besides, city data is about all aspects of a community and the dynamic and changing aspects of a community. Whether good news or bad news placing a sticky on one thread would not be an accurate depiction of any city or town.
oKaaaaayyy, I'm guessing OP is referring to the bodies buried over 10 years ago? That's like saying it's unsafe to live in Iowa because John Wayne Gacey used to live there, or it's unsafe to belong to the Republican Party because Ted Bundy used to volunteer on presidential campaigns. It's an old crime, and there's a fairly lengthy discussion on the ABQ forum about it already.
For gods sake the story about the bodies buried in the SW Mesa was on the news nightly for a few months. Now the story about the boys body found in the park. How can anyone say that people are ignoring it?
Why not call it like it is...A dozen or so women who it seems were involved in drugs and prostitution were connected to some crazy who did them all in. Get involved in drugs and sleaze and the chances for crime go up....Now we find last night that the boy discovered in the park was probably killed by his own mother.
Unfortunately we live in a place with rampant poverty, too many births to the macho and uneducated poor, excessive drug trading and weapon laws that allow carrying of guns. How can we be suprised that people get shot in traffic for simple driving errors?
Why would we want that as a sticky...?!?
Thats the past,.. that **** happens all over the world.
Sorry, but the LOCALS and Natives of this city wont allow that.
We should be talking about the progress, growth.. and such.
Personally, I don't understand why so many people can be so naive. So Albuq. is growing and expanding, all the time and these things get uprooted.
That doesn't mean there are not body dumps, all over this country, that has never been discovered. I'd be willing to bet there are millions but not just anywhere, is there so much expansion going on.
So one was found. Woohoo. Some of the bodies (bones) have not been identified. There's no telling how long they've been there.
The west mesa has, for many years, been considered wilderness. Truly, to the old timer's it's amazing anyone ever considered it to be a viable place to build homes. It's always been seen as useless, due to the fact it's sand and prairie grass, with little possibility to hold water. It's the Albuq. drain off, constantly shifting and hardly good foundation for building. But, build they did.
Considering the local attitude about the west mesa, it has historically also been seen as the ideal spot to dispose of dead animals. It's easy to dig in sand and the dry atmosphere, quickly disposes of the body. There has never been ordinances against burying animals out there, as it was not considered to be a part of any community, much less the city and absolutely nobody cared what happened up there.
So now, more dummies go up there and build even more homes on sifting sand and they uproot one of the popular burial areas and everybody goes nuts, because a few of those bodies are of missing women. Maybe they should spend some time, determining the age of those bones. Some just might not be human, at all.
" everybody goes nuts, because a few of those bodies are of missing women. " "There's no telling how long they've been there."
11 bodies found, over half already identified as those of missing ABQ women, most seen within the last five - eight years.
" Some just might not be human, at all. "
It's pretty easy to distinguish animal bones from human bones.
" We should be talking about the progress, growth.. and such. "
While I don't think a sticky is necessary, I certainly think this is a valid talking point on this forum and we should be talking about whatever people want to talk about.
Just a mention:
during the 'hippy' era, NM was popular for the communes because it's so remote. Believe it or not, Placitas (now seen as an upgrade) started out to be a hiding place for the pot smoking hippies. It was within driving distance of shopping and yet remote enough, nobody paid attention to yet another VW bus parked and providing a home for some 10 or 20 kids, high on dope.
The 70's were notorious from babies being hung in trees, to die. Always turned out to be some flower child.
The farther north you went, the more hide-aways could be found. There is so much (was) span between communities, it was impossible to police the entire state. So NM, AZ,UT,NV were paradise for this sort. I know of whole small towns, in the 4 corners area, that still harbor the drug scene. The descendants of the hippy scene.
So, now what is your opinion of this area? The west mesa was once strewn with used condoms, beer bottles, gun shells, rusting cars and buried bodies. Your precious Placitas was once the drug scene of Albuquerque. Corrales was once the root of boot leggers (transplants from Missouri). Want to know their names? Santa Fe was once almost all Mexican, descendants of land grant owners. They, of course, have been pushed out of their homes by rising taxes brought on by the movie star scene paying 10 times the values.
People of all walks, with dreams of romanticism and those with dreams of privacy, have always been drawn to NM. Welcome to the hell hole, all these migrants have built on our home.
" everybody goes nuts, because a few of those bodies are of missing women. " "There's no telling how long they've been there."
11 bodies found, over half already identified as those of missing ABQ women, most seen within the last five - eight years.
" Some just might not be human, at all. "
It's pretty easy to distinguish animal bones from human bones.
" We should be talking about the progress, growth.. and such. "
While I don't think a sticky is necessary, I certainly think this is a valid talking point on this forum and we should be talking about whatever people want to talk about.
Proper research from the city's police department.. will give you the exact dates of those found and how old.. well to be exact they are from 2001 and 2003.
It is not pretty easy to distinguish animal bones from human bones until the bones get examined by those labs they send them to.
"we should be talking about whatever people want to talk about"
No. Thats why it is called CITY-DATA.. Otherwise they would have named it Freechat Forum.
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Santa Fe was once almost all Mexican, descendants of land grant owners. They, of course, have been pushed out of their homes by rising taxes brought on by the movie star scene paying 10 times the values.
