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Old 03-22-2013, 11:02 AM
 
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Hello dear community.I have problems with my toes,the right foot is more affected than the left.I attached a photo of it to show you with what kind of foot issue im dealing.I have problems wearing closed shoes and cant find shoes that are not looking like "grannyshoes". Im walking in tennis shoes when I cant wear sandals.This not looking very elegant but in the moment the only option I have.Im also dealing with corns between my toes,but I think theres nothing you can do about them except pading.I want to avoid an operation in the moment because I know people who have more problems then before the operation and didnt recommend me to do it.

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Old 03-23-2013, 08:47 PM
 
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They didn't curl like that overnight. How did that happen? Wearing high heels? Spikes?
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Old 03-24-2013, 07:44 AM
 
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Maybe from wearing too tight shoegear in my youth/childhood.Over the years my toes developed in that curled position.Because of bad experiences in my family/friends (some have more problems now) surgery isnt an option for me.So Im looking for alternative treatments...
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:01 AM
 
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You have hammertoes....

There is no "alternative" treatment in terms of herbs, vitamins or poultices that will help this condition...it is not reversible...

If you aren't up for surgery your only alternative is to wear wide/high toe box shoes, open toed shoes, etc...
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Near Nashville TN
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Maybe from wearing too tight shoegear in my youth/childhood.Over the years my toes developed in that curled position.
If that were the case the large toe would also have been affected. What did your Dr say? Did he/she recommend surgery?

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Because of bad experiences in my family/friends (some have more problems now) surgery isnt an option for me.So Im looking for alternative treatments...
Just because they had bad experiences doesn't mean you will too. There is no alternative for toes that badly curled. I would see a good foot specialist and see what he/she recommends.
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:40 PM
 
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If that were the case the large toe would also have been affected. What did your Dr say? Did he/she recommend surgery?



Just because they had bad experiences doesn't mean you will too. There is no alternative for toes that badly curled. I would see a good foot specialist and see what he/she recommends.
The large toe is not affected when someone develops hammertoe. Some people are born with that growth pattern to their feet, and some develop it as a result of wearing ill-fitting shoes during their most active years of skeletal growth.

Physical manipulation of the toes (stretching them, using your toes to pick up small objects or washcloths from the floor, exercising them like this) can "loosen" the deformity somewhat but won't eliminate it completely. Only surgery will eliminate it. But if it's not debilitating or affecting your posture or comfort of your feet when you walk, then you don't need to do anything about it. It looks weird but it isn't necessarily a disabling malady.
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Old 03-25-2013, 12:37 PM
 
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The large toe is not affected when someone develops hammertoe. Some people are born with that growth pattern to their feet, and some develop it as a result of wearing ill-fitting shoes during their most active years of skeletal growth.

Physical manipulation of the toes (stretching them, using your toes to pick up small objects or washcloths from the floor, exercising them like this) can "loosen" the deformity somewhat but won't eliminate it completely. Only surgery will eliminate it. But if it's not debilitating or affecting your posture or comfort of your feet when you walk, then you don't need to do anything about it. It looks weird but it isn't necessarily a disabling malady.
I have never seen toes that badly curled where only one was "not" effected. The cause of the curling, an injury, spike heels, whatever, affected all the toes. I'd seen hammer toe but never with the rest of the foot so badly deformed. I would like to see toes with this amount of contraction fixed without surgery. I believe this person needs to see a good podiatrist.
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:33 PM
 
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I have never seen toes that badly curled where only one was "not" effected. The cause of the curling, an injury, spike heels, whatever, affected all the toes. I'd seen hammer toe but never with the rest of the foot so badly deformed. I would like to see toes with this amount of contraction fixed without surgery. I believe this person needs to see a good podiatrist.
It isn't a contraction - this isn't the muscle being pulled. It's the bone growing that way; it's a true deformity. My aunt has two hammertoes on each foot; for her, it's genetic. I have the genetic predisposition for it but my toes grew relatively normal. I say relatively, because my "index and middle" toes on each foot, are the same length as my "thumb" toe. This isn't common, and it's why I can't wear pointed-toe shoes, ever.

But yeah hammertoe can occur on just one toe, or on up to three - it won't happen on the "pinky" toe because there's no solid bone or joint in that toe; it's just hardened cartilege and calcium. It doesn't typically happen on the "thumb" toe either because the bones on that toe are very strong, and well-supported, and well-insulated. Also, most shoes don't scrunch the thumb toe, so it isn't likely that they'd create an artificial deformity (as opposed to organic deformity caused by genetics).
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:33 PM
 
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It isn't a contraction - this isn't the muscle being pulled. It's the bone growing that way; it's a true deformity. My aunt has two hammertoes on each foot; for her, it's genetic. I have the genetic predisposition for it but my toes grew relatively normal. I say relatively, because my "index and middle" toes on each foot, are the same length as my "thumb" toe. This isn't common, and it's why I can't wear pointed-toe shoes, ever.

But yeah hammertoe can occur on just one toe, or on up to three - it won't happen on the "pinky" toe because there's no solid bone or joint in that toe; it's just hardened cartilege and calcium. It doesn't typically happen on the "thumb" toe either because the bones on that toe are very strong, and well-supported, and well-insulated. Also, most shoes don't scrunch the thumb toe, so it isn't likely that they'd create an artificial deformity (as opposed to organic deformity caused by genetics).
Hammertoes are caused by contracture.....there is no "bone defect" or "bone growing that way", your bones stop growing at skeletal maturity....mid teens for girls....and since hammertoes don't typically occur until the 4th decade or later, there isn't any "wrong way growing going on"

It's not an "organic deformity" whatever that means....it is in fact, caused by shoe wear often in folks that may have a genetic predisposition toward the condition, but you need both factors.

Also your description of the little toe is just silly, of course there is "solid bone" in there....hammertoes may not typically occur in the 5th toe but it isn't because they are filled with "cartilage and calcium"

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Old 03-25-2013, 06:45 PM
 
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I have never seen toes that badly curled where only one was "not" effected. The cause of the curling, an injury, spike heels, whatever, affected all the toes. I'd seen hammer toe but never with the rest of the foot so badly deformed. I would like to see toes with this amount of contraction fixed without surgery. I believe this person needs to see a good podiatrist.
Do you look at feet for a living?

Hammertoes by definition do not affect the great toe....primarily 2nd through 4th, any one or all 3 to varying degrees. Hammertoes are caused by tight, ill fitting footwear and while bunion deformity can affect the great toe, you can have one without the other.

No one has to have surgery for hammertoes, particularly if they are flexible and not fixed. If shoe wear modification is not working however, surgery is the only reliable fix.
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