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I would go with Jarrow's Bergamot if you want to give it a try. I prefer wileys orange burst fish oil for omegas(its really cod liver oil, very mild taste and good source of natural A)
Curcumin is tricky supplement, many people consider the black pepper absorption inferior to the new formulations.
This article disagrees and gives a break down of all the various formulations. I dont agree with them, but either way, its good info(esp metabolite picture half way down).
Two of the best supplement companies, Thorne and Jarrow, both use Meriva. Jarrow95 is always highly recommended for joint pain.
Another popular formulation, Longvida(NOW sells as circubrain), often recommended for brain inflammation or plaque. Life extension dropped their popular oil based formula in favor of their new ginger formula which they claim stops the liver from breaking curcumin down into the useless metabolites. This is the one Im using.
The assumption has been that higher blood levels of curcumin or turmeric are required to have positive effects. So companies have been developing formulations to increase it in the blood. But what if that isn't how it works? There is evidence that it doesn't work that way at all. This page I linked to before explains how positive effects may be achieved despite curcumin's low bioavailability. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6835970/ Here's another but not as detailed https://academic.oup.com/advances/ar...9/1/41/4848948
They might be on the wrong track by chasing after higher blood levels. To my knowledge, there is no evidence that these formulations had improved health effects than basic turmeric/curcumin, but I haven't searched extensively. There might be disadvantages to having increased absorption in the bloodstream.
To my knowledge, there is no evidence that these formulations had improved health effects than basic turmeric/curcumin, but I haven't searched extensively. There might be disadvantages to having increased absorption in the bloodstream.
I like the more natural LEF formulation over Meriva and Longvida, and they gave up their bcm95 in favor of it.
BUT i cant deny most of the evidence is with Meriva and Longvida. Not proof, but across a few message boards, there seems to be a consensus that jarrows curcumin95(really meriva) is the best for joint pain. That doesnt mean it is best for cholesterol of course.
I like the more natural LEF formulation over Meriva and Longvida, and they gave up their bcm95 in favor of it.
BUT i cant deny most of the evidence is with Meriva and Longvida. Not proof, but across a few message boards, there seems to be a consensus that jarrows curcumin95(really meriva) is the best for joint pain. That doesnt mean it is best for cholesterol of course.
I meant studies. I didn't find studies that show greater health effects from new formulations, or formulations with pepper, than from basic curcumin or tumeric supps. If they exist I missed them.
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I've nver read curcumin for cholesterol
There are studies that found basic curcumin lowered LDL cholesterol. There are also studies that found turmeric extract lowers it too, which is interesting since there is very little curcumin in turmeric.
I meant studies. I didn't find studies that show greater health effects from new formulations, or formulations with pepper, than from basic curcumin or tumeric supps. If they exist I missed them.
There are studies that found basic curcumin lowered LDL cholesterol. There are also studies that found turmeric extract lowers it too, which is interesting since there is very little curcumin in turmeric.
Certainly tumeric by itself may have benefits. My understanding is the most research has been done with c3 complex which is a more whole plant approach. Sports Research is has a good one.
Its hard to find comparisons on the formulations, but 2 of the best companies(Thorne and Jarrow) have decided to go with Meriva. Thorne in particular doesnt seem to care about price, they try to put out the best product.
I like Curcumin and have used several products(mainly cancer prevention), by no means am I sure what the best one is, currently using LEF.
Certainly tumeric by itself may have benefits. My understanding is the most research has been done with c3 complex which is a more whole plant approach. Sports Research is has a good one.
Its hard to find comparisons on the formulations, but 2 of the best companies(Thorne and Jarrow) have decided to go with Meriva. Thorne in particular doesnt seem to care about price, they try to put out the best product. I like Curcumin and have used several products(mainly cancer prevention), by no means am I sure what the best one is, currently using LEF.
Do you have normal cholesterol without medication?
Some random articles about turmeric and curcumin use. Information seems to be inconsistent but it helps with cholesterol in certain cases, I think. Maybe it depends on the CAUSE of the high cholesterol in the first place. Anyone who has some extra time and the interest, here are some informative articles:
Among healthy volunteers, curcumin 500 mg/day for 7 days decreased serum cholesterol and lipid peroxide levels and increased high-density lipoprotein (HDL).2 A 500 mg daily curcumin supplement was more effective than 6 g/day in reducing serum cholesterol and triglyceride levels.35
Studies show, Curcumin significantly reduces the level of lipid profile and increases the levels of HDL-C after 30 days of treatment in comparison to plain turmeric. The effects of Curcumin is more significant than the house hold turmeric alone. Curcumin has demonstrated some efficacy in treating hypercholesterolemia. One small study found that daily administration of 500 mg of curcumin for 7 days resulted in reduction in the total cholesterol by 11.63%, and increase in HDL cholesterol by 29%.
Curcumin reduces cholesterol by interfering with intestinal cholesterol uptake, increasing the conversion of cholesterol into bile acids and increasing the excretion of bile acids. Using curcumin+piperine is better than using curcumin alone.
One small study found that daily administration of 500 mg of curcumin for one week led to a significant 33% decrease in lipid peroxides, a 29% increase in HDL cholesterol, and a 12% decrease in total body cholesterol. Another study also had consistent findings, demonstrating that only 10 mg of curcumin administered twice daily lowered serum LDL and increased HDL.29
The peperdine seems to slow down the oxidation of the curcumin and another thing is if you're going to take it, it's best to take it with some fatty substance for better absorption.
Yes, Pure Encapsulations is the only brand because it has the black pepper that is such a good aid in absorption. I've done a lot of reading and the black pepper seems to be essential for absorption.
I started on the steel cut oats last year when a neighbor from Scotland gave us a bag of stone cut oats and they were delicious. The place he got them from has been sold of out the stone cut so I got steel cut, which apparently are Irish oats. Both are supposed to be very good for you.
MadMan, when I went vegetarian, I was already off dairy products due to allergy. Maybe I wasn't careful enough with other foods though but I don't think diet has anything to do with it, at least in my case. I wasn't even down one or two points. My first thought upon seeing these results was that it must be wrong and I need to be retested.
5.3mg of black pepper (which is what it reads on the nutrition label of that brand/product) is equal to juuust about a pinch of black pepper.
There's no need to spend a lot of money on tumeric with black pepper even if you believe the black pepper is the cholesterol-lowering ingredient. Just sprinkle some fine-ground black pepper on your savory foods at each meal.
5.3mg of black pepper (which is what it reads on the nutrition label of that brand/product) is equal to juuust about a pinch of black pepper.
There's no need to spend a lot of money on tumeric with black pepper even if you believe the black pepper is the cholesterol-lowering ingredient. Just sprinkle some fine-ground black pepper on your savory foods at each meal.
No, they say it's the curcumin that lowers cholesterol and the black pepper makes it work better.
I have read that pepper does have a tiny bit of cholesterol lowering ability too though.
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