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Old 11-10-2011, 12:34 PM
 
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Did anyone else see this today?

Coca-Cola Successfully Pressured The Grand Canyon Into Abandoning Its Plastic Bottle Ban

I guess money is more important than keeping our state parks clean and environmentally friendly?
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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I don't see the problem. I think the US should sell naming rights to National monuments, parks, cemeteries and so on like has been done with sports stadiums and bowl games. The "Coca-Cola Grand Canyon" could be worth millions more than some payoff for plastic bottles would bring in.
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I dunno. I use plastic water bottles in place of canteens while hiking nowadays. I buy a bottle refill it for a couple of weeks then toss it and buy another. I can remember spending more than $5 for a plastic "canteen" at the hiking store back in the 80s. Like all plastic it didn't last long.

The real problem is getting people to dispose of their trash properly. That's not just plastic bottles.
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Cave Creek, AZ USA
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The real problem is getting people to dispose of their trash properly. That's not just plastic bottles.
Bingo.
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Old 11-10-2011, 01:24 PM
 
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I don't see the problem. I think the US should sell naming rights to National monuments, parks, cemeteries and so on like has been done with sports stadiums and bowl games. The "Coca-Cola Grand Canyon" could be worth millions more than some payoff for plastic bottles would bring in.
The issue is the amount of plastic bottles being disposed of improperly at the GC, which sparked the ban in the first place.


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I dunno. I use plastic water bottles in place of canteens while hiking nowadays. I buy a bottle refill it for a couple of weeks then toss it and buy another. I can remember spending more than $5 for a plastic "canteen" at the hiking store back in the 80s. Like all plastic it didn't last long.

The real problem is getting people to dispose of their trash properly. That's not just plastic bottles.
You're not supposed to refill plastic bottles due to the leeching that contaminates the water.

I do agree with your point, but with the vast size of the GC and the increasing amount of lazy hikers, the amount of trash is ever increasing.
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Old 11-10-2011, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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The issue is the amount of plastic bottles being disposed of improperly at the GC, which sparked the ban in the first place.



No, it was only a plan. The plan is being scrapped. And from the article it sounds like the effort was driven more by a green conscience (against bottled water) than any real problems with litter.
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Old 11-10-2011, 02:24 PM
 
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No, it was only a plan. The plan is being scrapped. And from the article it sounds like the effort was driven more by a green conscience (against bottled water) than any real problems with litter.
The plan was to ban plastic bottles, did I say otherwise?

The plan is being scrapped due to the 'donation' from Coca-Cola.

If you're for our national parks being trashed and polluted then good for you, but it creates obvious environmental issues that will effect us down the line.
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Old 11-10-2011, 03:05 PM
 
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The plan was to ban plastic bottles, did I say otherwise?

The plan is being scrapped due to the 'donation' from Coca-Cola.

If you're for our national parks being trashed and polluted then good for you, but it creates obvious environmental issues that will effect us down the line.
I don't see anything in previous posts indicating anyone is "for our national parks being trashed and polluted," so let's stick to the actual facts in this discussion.
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Old 11-11-2011, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Boydton, VA
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Old wives tale: "You're not supposed to refill plastic bottles due to the leeching that contaminates the water"....

Will a plastic bottle leach harmful substances into water if I reuse it?

Most convenience-size beverage bottles sold in the U.S. are made from polyethylene terephthalate (PET). The FDA has determined that PET meets standards for food-contact materials established by federal regulations and therefore permits the use of PET in food and beverage packaging for both single use and repeated use. FDA has evaluated test data that simulate long-term storage and that support repeated use.

The toxicological properties of PET and any compounds that might migrate under test conditions have also been well studied. The results of these tests demonstrate that PET is safe for its intended uses. (For details, see The Safety of Polyethylene Terephthalate.)

From: Plastics info

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Old 11-11-2011, 06:53 PM
 
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Why are lazy hikers Coke's fault?
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