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Old 07-22-2014, 04:16 AM
 
Location: West Jakarta + Tangerang
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I heard Prabowo resign, he's like a kid does not can accept defeat, I also do not like with the CS nya .
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Old 07-22-2014, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Jakarta, Indonesia
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^^ he won cheers!

Official, final tally: Jokowi 53.15%, Prabowo 46.85%

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Joko "Jokowi" Widodo, is officially Indonesia's seventh president after the General Elections Commission (KPU) concluded its vote recapitulation on Tuesday evening, confirming that the governor of Jakarta and furniture businessman had garnered 53.15 percent of the vote.

Jokowi netted 70,633,576 votes, which was over 8 million more than rival Prabowo Subianto, who received 62,262,844 votes or 46.85 percent.

Analysts have said that with a gap of 6.3 percent, it would be difficult for Prabowo to contest the result with the Constitutional Court.

Jokowi will be sworn in as president no later than Oct. 20.

Prabowo had earlier rejected the election vote recapitulation process and result, claiming that the election process was flawed and marred by widespread fraud. (ren)
and as for the other guy who's been rejecting the poll result and couldn't accept his defeat (despite his statement on how he would accept the KPU result the day after the election was done)

Prabowo Subianto 'withdraws' from Indonesian presidential election on day vote was to be declared

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Former army strongman Prabowo Subianto claims to have ‘‘withdrawn’’ from the presidential race on the day it was to be announced that he had lost.

In an extraordinary statement in his campaign headquarters on Tuesday afternoon, Mr Prabowo said he entirely rejected the judgment delivered by 133 million Indonesians at the ballot box on July 9, because it was the result of ‘‘massive cheating that is structured and systematic’’.

He said the country’s Electoral Commission had failed in its duty to democracy, so he withdrew his participation from the process. He also suggested, though not explicitly, that he would not take his appeal to Indonesia’s constitutional court.


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Old 07-22-2014, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Manila
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how the presidential election in the Philipines is almost the same as that in Indonesia? or different?
In the Philippines, we elect a President once every six years, and they can't serve two consecutive terms like they do in Indonesia....

Below's a link to a blog post I wrote regarding what transpires during Filipino elections. Feel free to make comparisons with the Indonesian ones! However, pls note that this was written in the context of a midterm election (which happens halfway through the term of an incumbent president). Nonetheless both presidential election years and midterm years will still share common traits, so enjoy the read below... Feel free to ask a bit more about it on this thread after reading if you need to...

Election in the Philippines | hellokindredstrangers
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Old 07-22-2014, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Jakarta, Indonesia
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In the Philippines, we elect a President once every six years, and they can't serve two consecutive terms like they do in Indonesia....

Below's a link to a blog post I wrote regarding what transpires during Filipino elections. Feel free to make comparisons with the Indonesian ones! However, pls note that this was written in the context of a midterm election (which happens halfway through the term of an incumbent president). Nonetheless both presidential election years and midterm years will still share common traits, so enjoy the read below... Feel free to ask a bit more about it on this thread after reading if you need to...

Election in the Philippines | hellokindredstrangers
Interesting 6 years eh, in here its every 5 years... the only difference i notice is that we do the election manually here since some of the provinces didn't really have good access to electricity.. even now some of the population didn't get chance to go for the election (not that they really care i think, since they're quiet isolated and happily lives in their traditional villages)
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Old 07-22-2014, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Manila
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^^ he won cheers!

Official, final tally: Jokowi 53.15%, Prabowo 46.85%



and as for the other guy who's been rejecting the poll result and couldn't accept his defeat (despite his statement on how he would accept the KPU result the day after the election was done)

Prabowo Subianto 'withdraws' from Indonesian presidential election on day vote was to be declared
Yes! I'm happy that Jokowi won! Congrats to him and the people of Indonesia!

Juat hoping now that Prabowo will be a good sport and officially accept the will of the people of his country... The sooner he does, the better for the country as a whole!
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Old 07-22-2014, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Jakarta, Indonesia
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Yes! I'm happy that Jokowi won! Congrats to him and the people of Indonesia!

Juat hoping now that Prabowo will be a good sport and officially accept the will of the people of his country...
Yes im so glad that he did, i never doubted the quickcount result, im going to have celebration with some of my buddies tommorow yay!

Prabowo can't accept his defeat, idk i lost all my sorry feeling to him... well i thought he wasn't that that horrible until today morning's speech... unfortunately we don't have the English version of the speech :/ some of my friend who was supporting him also lose his respect to the guy and regreted that he voted for him lol, i knew the guy is an ass anyway and wouldn't bring any good to this country.

We were terrified that there might be chaos today... but gladly nothing happened and everyone is busy with Ramadan.
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Old 07-23-2014, 12:42 PM
 
Location: NM
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Damn talk about a sore loser, what ever happened to the art of conceding defeat gracefully in an else?
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Old 07-23-2014, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Jakarta, Indonesia
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Damn talk about a sore loser, what ever happened to the art of conceding defeat gracefully in an else?
Hm i would consider these following reason:
1) He's been wasting money promoting himself, billions of rupiah.
2) He failed in 2004, 2009 (as PM) and now 2014, imagine how much of his money has gone since then.
3) He has uncontrollable temper, this is dangerous actually in diplomatic relationship, although might be good if opposing nation tries to exploit resources here.
4) He's now on his 60s getting old fast
5) his desperate measure launching black campaign to spread lies on his opponent shows how much he really need this victory, because in the next coming years more new political parties would arise reducing his chance of victory.
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Old 07-24-2014, 01:38 AM
 
Location: Jakarta, Indonesia
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Meet the Obama of Indonesia



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Joko Widodo—one of Fortune’s 50 World’s Greatest Leaders—is declared President-elect of Indonesia. Now he just needs his opponent to concede.

Joko Widodo, a self-made millionaire from the slums, is Indonesia’s next president. On Tuesday, the country’s election commission pronounced Widodo, who is popularly known as Jokowi, the winner of its July 9 presidential contest. While many suspected this was the case—Jokowi, currently the governor of Jakarta, claimed victory on election night—the country was kept in suspense by the election commission, which counts ballots—all 130 million of them—by hand.

In the days running up to the election, pollsters had called the race “too close to call.” In the end, it wasn’t. Jokowi, garnered 53.15% of the vote, besting his opponent Prabowo Subianto, a former military general who is banned from the U.S. for past human rights abuses, by some 8 million votes.

So far, that margin has not been enough to convince Prabowo to concede, however. The strongman claims to have uncovered millions of phantom votes and has vowed to contest the election results in court. Independent observers have called the election fair.

Prabowo has three days to file a challenge with Indonesia’s Constitutional Court, which would be required to rule on the matter by August 20. And even members of Prabowo’s legal team have said there is no point, according to Shaun Levine, a senior analyst at the Eurasia Group.

But the danger, in any case, isn’t so much a protracted legal fight, but rather upheaval in the streets. The matter has some in Indonesia braced for election-related violence. Three-thousand riot police were dispatched to election commission headquarters and current president Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono issued stern warnings that violence will not be tolerated.

Still, the show of strength hasn’t calmed everyone. Harry Su of Bahana Securities noted in an analyst report today that “expensive cars [have] disappeared from many car showrooms.” Levine doubts that Yudhoyono, in the final months of his decade-long presidency, will permit any violence lest it tarnish his record in office.

Jokowi, who got into politics less than a decade ago, is an improbable successor to Yudhoyono. The candidate, who grew up in the slums of Solo, a mid-sized Indonesian city, was the first in his family to go to college. He studied forestry, started the furniture export business that made him rich, and then ran for mayor. He cracked down on corruption, cleaned up and was named runner-up for the World Mayor title in 2012. That same year, having excited much of the Indonesian public—cue the comparisons to Obama—he was elected governor of Jakarta. FORTUNE ranked him No. 37 on our 2014 list of 50 World’s Greatest Leaders.

Now, when Jokowi takes office October 20, he will be leading the fourth largest country on earth, and overseeing the largest economy in Southeast Asia.

Investors are (relatively) happy about that, but it won’t be an easy task. Indonesia has blown too much of its budget on politically popular fuel subsidies at the expense of infrastructure, health and education spending in recent years, says Levine. In addition to reorienting spending, Jokowi will likely have to untangle a “complex web of government regulations” that have kept many foreign investors at bay, Levine says.

“Investors should probably temper their expectations about what Joko Widodo will be able to accomplish, not because he doesn’t want to implement reforms but because of the structural challenge,” says Levine. “There are 10 political parties in parliament that he’s going to have to work with, which will make pushing through politically unpopular economic reforms difficult.” Jokowi’s party has only 19% of seats in parliament; his coalition makes up 38%.

In any case, says Levine of Jokowi’s win—and the 70 million votes behind it: “This is very, very positive story for democracy in Indonesia.” Indeed.
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Old 07-24-2014, 05:58 PM
 
Location: NM
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Hm i would consider these following reason:
1) He's been wasting money promoting himself, billions of rupiah.
2) He failed in 2004, 2009 (as PM) and now 2014, imagine how much of his money has gone since then.
3) He has uncontrollable temper, this is dangerous actually in diplomatic relationship, although might be good if opposing nation tries to exploit resources here.
4) He's now on his 60s getting old fast
5) his desperate measure launching black campaign to spread lies on his opponent shows how much he really need this victory, because in the next coming years more new political parties would arise reducing his chance of victory.
Sounds like he's a desperate ex-General who sees his opportunity for power slipping further and further away...
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