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Old 03-21-2015, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Singapore
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Immigrants workers are treated like **** here as well, it's extremely saddening and appalling.
It happens everywhere; in western countries, in Singapore, in Taiwan and in Hong Kong. We are all human beings, our blood all runs red. The foreign workers played a part in building nations; they should be treated better.
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Old 03-21-2015, 07:53 PM
 
Location: singapore
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Well Singapore is wealthy but are the true blue Singaporeans really happy ?
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Old 03-23-2015, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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The man who was responsible for much of Singapore's transformation has died. Prosperity in exchange for a dictatorship.

Lee Kuan Yew obituary: stern prime minister built modern Singapore - LA Times
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Old 03-23-2015, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Sunshine state
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Well Singapore is wealthy but are the true blue Singaporeans really happy ?
You may have a point there. In our recent visit to that region (Dec 2014), my husband pointed out something to me that gave me pause. He said he didn't see any smile from Singaporeans we encountered. Every where we went, everyone looked so unhappy and tense, even the taxi drivers looked grumpy.

By contract, Indonesians, whose country is less wealthy and usually suffers ridicules from its more wealthy neighbors, looked much happier as a whole. They smiled a lot and went about their daily life in a happy go lucky sort of attitude.
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Old 03-23-2015, 12:00 PM
 
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Many residents of Singapore came from other countries.

Some immigrants choose to remain as PR instead of applying Singaporean citizenship as they need to renounce their original nationalities. Non-citizen Male PR are also conscripted for military service.

There are also many foreign import workers.
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A lot of people living in Singapore are guest workers from other Asian nations. They don't seem to be faring as well as the citizens.

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Old 03-23-2015, 02:14 PM
 
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And also the rich Gulf countries.

It is probably an Asian thing. There is few situation of people from poorer countries doing manual and low paying jobs in most Western countries. Most such jobs in western countries and japan are done by own citizens.

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It happens everywhere; in western countries, in Singapore, in Taiwan and in Hong Kong...
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Old 03-23-2015, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Singapore
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And also the rich Gulf countries.

It is probably an Asian thing. There is few situation of people from poorer countries doing manual and low paying jobs in most Western countries. Most such jobs in western countries and japan are done by own citizens.
A good number of menial jobs in the US are taken up by illegal immigrants from rural and poorer parts of Mexico; Western Europe's menial jobs are taken up by a lot of migrants from the poorer parts of Eastern Europe.

However, western countries like Australia, New Zealand, and then South korea and Japan, manual and low-paying jobs are usually done by their own citizens
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Old 03-24-2015, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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And also the rich Gulf countries.

It is probably an Asian thing. There is few situation of people from poorer countries doing manual and low paying jobs in most Western countries. Most such jobs in western countries and japan are done by own citizens.
Really? I thought many Eastern Europeans did such jobs in Western Europe.
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Old 03-25-2015, 03:14 AM
 
Location: Singapore
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Really? I thought many Eastern Europeans did such jobs in Western Europe.
Yes, many low-paying jobs and menial jobs in western europe are done by eastern Europeans.

If you research carefully, Switzerland one of the very few western Europe countries with low levels of immigrants doing menial jobs.

I give you a hint: it has something to do with the EU.
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Old 03-25-2015, 09:51 AM
 
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I really don't think Singapore is exceptionally wealthy, I think people are often just comparing apples to oranges by comparing Singapore, which is essentially a city, to other countries. Many cities are rich--if you list cities by Per-capita GDP, singapore wouldn't even crack the top 20. Macau, Seattle(Washington), Portland(Oregon), Calgary(Canada), etc. all have higher per-capita GDP. By total size of economy places like New York, Tokyo, London, Paris also have GDPs 4 times higher than Singapore's.

Singapore is well off, has great infrastructure, and a strong economy (and great food :-)), and the economy has grown quickly. it also stands out as one of the wealthiest cities in the region.

Note: Of course GDP is a tricky measure of a city's wealth. One large company or a couple billionaires move into a small city and that can have a large effect on GDP without necessarily effecting the average quality of life all that much, but I suppose it is the best metric we have for doing this comparison.
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