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Old 12-13-2015, 07:57 AM
 
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Seems like he acts very morally uprights. He married a beautiful smart girl (doctor) and he conducts himself well. And he is kind and giving and professional. I just don't see how this is possible.
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Old 12-13-2015, 08:15 AM
 
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I'm glad you think he has "moral uprights" but people's ethics and character will vary independently from their ideology. There are despicably evil theists and admirably ethical atheists. In addition a morally upright believer and a morally upright unbeliever may well have different motivations for their uprightness. A believer will tend to be good because if they're not good, god will punish them; an unbeliever will tend to be good because they want to be good. Goodness is, in some ways, its own reward. On the other hand back when I was a believer I was primarily motivated by the latter anyway, suggesting that whatever goodness I had / have never had anything to do with by theism.

It is said the good people will be good in theism despite their beliefs ;-)

I'll leave you to judge which motivation is the nobler of the two.

As for the Zuck, I think he's just another guy (who happens to be rich as Croseus) who is doing his best. I think he is handling wealth and fame relatively well. Last I knew he still drives an ordinary car and lives relatively simply (though he has bought up properties surrounding his own for security reasons). Good for him. It's admirable when people conduct themselves with integrity. I wish people would pay attention to that rather than to ideology. It's not admirable in and of itself to be, say, a Christian, or an atheist. Pay attention to what people DO, not what they SAY or claim to BELIEVE or FOLLOW.
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Old 12-13-2015, 08:17 AM
 
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Seems like he acts very morally uprights. He married a beautiful smart girl (doctor) and he conducts himself well. And he is kind and giving and professional. I just don't see how this is possible.
If you think that only religious people can be good people - you need to get out of the house more.
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Old 12-13-2015, 09:18 AM
 
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Are you coming here to try and mess with nonbelievers or are you actually serious? Even a senile squirrel knows that religion doesn't have a monopoly on morality.
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Old 12-13-2015, 09:21 AM
 
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If you think that only religious people can be good people - you need to get out of the house more.
I'm always baffled at the rationale behind these types of threads when they're posted in the A&A forum.

So clearly the op has a predisposed position that atheists must be immoral people. So why would you ask immoral people such a question? Would you expect immoral people to acknowledge their terribleness and chat about their problems staying "right with god" or something?

Or conversely....what would the expected response be to such a prejudiced and loaded question? "Yeah I'm not sure he could be an atheist either....I haven't seen him at the baby-eating festival, at least recently."

Makes me wonder how some people remember to breathe sometimes.
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Old 12-13-2015, 09:41 AM
 
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...what would the expected response be to such a prejudiced and loaded question? "Yeah I'm not sure he could be an atheist either....I haven't seen him at the baby-eating festival, at least recently."
Yeah I know. It was easy to see it was either a lame attempt at trolling or a spectacularly naive belief about the nature of (un)belief and the human condition. I figure though that for every person who wanders in here to actually post some of their random misconceptions like that, there's 10 or 20 more who might actually get some food for thought from a decent, reasoned response. I tend to me naive that way. But what can you do in the face of rampant stereotyping -- just try to surprise the occasional person out of their simplistic narrative about unbelievers.
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Old 12-13-2015, 09:43 AM
 
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Me thinks the OP is trolling, as his post is completely unrelated to religious belief. A theist believes in god, an atheist doesn't. A theist can be kind and generous or a selfish arsehole. An atheist can be kind and generous or a selfish arsehole. Therefore, Zuckerberg could be either.
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Old 12-13-2015, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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... I just don't see how this is possible.
Then you're more blind than I am.
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Old 12-13-2015, 01:06 PM
 
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some of the responses here are, in nutshell, very rude.

Which is to be expected. Which is why exactly I asked the question...thx for the 1 or 2 good answers
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Old 12-13-2015, 01:29 PM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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How about don't know, don't care and don't see how it makes any difference.
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