Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality > Atheism and Agnosticism
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 05-11-2018, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Switzerland/Ticino
283 posts, read 173,153 times
Reputation: 122

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by TroutDude View Post
You're wrong.

Without written instructions from the deceased, the surviving family makes the determination of what kind funeral to have. I've been to Catholic funerals with a Mass (Mass is optional at Catholic funerals) wherein the deceased were non-believers but the family wanted a Catholic funeral. No priest is going to say "nuh-uh."

The OP is a one-trick pony. Without a trick.

No priest is going to perform a FUNERAL cerimony just for fun of the family and friends..


Do you think that relatives could have lied to the priest by not telling the truth about the latest Hawking convictions?

It could be and in one stroke Hawking's relatives would have made fun of the deceased .... themselves..... and the Church ...

Great satisfaction...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 05-11-2018, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
16,155 posts, read 12,876,364 times
Reputation: 2881
Quote:
Originally Posted by asiago12 View Post
The question is: Does Christian Church grant a Christian funeral to someone who still is atheist ? No .. in every Christian Church..
In most cases...how would it know?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-11-2018, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Switzerland/Ticino
283 posts, read 173,153 times
Reputation: 122
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rafius View Post
In most cases...how would it know?
I suppose that the family knows the will of the deceased..( Maybe in Spain it is different..... sometime they are so strange )
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-11-2018, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
31,373 posts, read 20,228,729 times
Reputation: 14071
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rafius View Post
In most cases...how would it know?

It doesn't. The OP is under the mistaken impression that one must be a Christian to have a Christian funeral.

Not true.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-11-2018, 09:45 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
50,089 posts, read 20,781,990 times
Reputation: 5931
Quote:
Originally Posted by asiago12 View Post
No priest is going to perform a FUNERAL cerimony just for fun of the family and friends..



No, He's going to do it because he gets PAID for it.


Quote:
Do you think that relatives could have lied to the priest by not telling the truth about the latest Hawking convictions?
I'm sure they didn't. I doubt that they went out of their way to remind the priest that Hawking was not a believer, and i doubt that he pressed the point. Hawking's views were well known if he wanted to look on Wiki.

Quote:
It could be and in one stroke Hawking's relatives would have made fun of the deceased .... themselves..... and the Church ...

Great satisfaction...
It is a bit of an eyebrow -raiser in view of Hawking's views being well known, but living as you do in Gibraltar, you won't know how the church works here. Few people even now bother to stipulate a secular funeral but just have a standard one with the guy in the nightgown, hymns and scripture -readings even from people whom I know didn't believe a word of it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-11-2018, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
16,155 posts, read 12,876,364 times
Reputation: 2881
Quote:
Originally Posted by TroutDude View Post
It doesn't. The OP is under the mistaken impression that one must be a Christian to have a Christian funeral.

Not true.
Exactly! I've been atheist from the age of 10 but there would be nothing stopping me stipulating in my will that I wanted a Christian funeral... and getting one.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-11-2018, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
28,114 posts, read 30,023,553 times
Reputation: 13128
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShouldIMoveOrStayPut...? View Post
Kind of like the Mormon's baptizing people passed on without their knowledge. Their claim might be "what's the harm?" They'll be prepared either way (Yes, I realize there might be other motives on the part of the Mormon's)...
I'm curious as to what these "other motives" might be. Since we don't count them as being part of our membership numbers, I'm at a loss as to what benefit to us you think we see in this.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-11-2018, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Switzerland/Ticino
283 posts, read 173,153 times
Reputation: 122
Quote:
Originally Posted by TroutDude View Post
It doesn't. The OP is under the mistaken impression that one must be a Christian to have a Christian funeral.

Not true.


There are some ( or many.. it depends by your view sigh ) Muslims here.. but the Church reject their demand for a Christian funeral..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-11-2018, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Switzerland/Ticino
283 posts, read 173,153 times
Reputation: 122
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rafius View Post
Exactly! I've been atheist from the age of 10 but there would be nothing stopping me stipulating in my will that I wanted a Christian funeral... and getting one.

I think that you don't know what you are talking about.. you seem to be confused..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-11-2018, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
16,155 posts, read 12,876,364 times
Reputation: 2881
Quote:
Originally Posted by asiago12 View Post
I think that you don't know what you are talking about.. you seem to be confused..
There is only one here that is talking through their arse...and it's not me.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality > Atheism and Agnosticism
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:32 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top