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Old 03-23-2019, 05:09 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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It's what we keep saying - atheism as nothing but the rejection of a claim is not a claim of any Thing that needs proving. All that we can possibly show is a world where no decent evidence exists for the god - claim that we don't accept. Negative evidence is all that we can reasonably be asked to present and that is pretty much all of it.
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Old 03-23-2019, 05:28 PM
 
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It's what we keep saying - atheism as nothing but the rejection of a claim is not a claim of any Thing that needs proving. All that we can possibly show is a world where no decent evidence exists for the god - claim that we don't accept. Negative evidence is all that we can reasonably be asked to present and that is pretty much all of it.
Yes, you keep saying it, but that does not make it true. Your definition of "decent evidence" is not just biased but entirely false.
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Old 03-23-2019, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Yes, you keep saying it, but that does not make it true. ...
And that applies to your main theme, as well. That's a principle.
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Old 03-23-2019, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada Land, CA
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It's what we keep saying - atheism as nothing but the rejection of a claim is not a claim of any Thing that needs proving. All that we can possibly show is a world where no decent evidence exists for the god - claim that we don't accept. Negative evidence is all that we can reasonably be asked to present and that is pretty much all of it.
I can’t believe this thread is on page 21! And for your information there is no such thing as negative evidence. You can’t prove a negative.

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Yes, you keep saying it, but that does not make it true. Your definition of "decent evidence" is not just biased but entirely false.
Yep. Atheism is a belief system despite what some people here claim. The anti theology is too consistant. The belief of what happens after death is the same Among the posters here. I could go on.
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Old 03-23-2019, 06:31 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Yes, you keep saying it, but that does not make it true. Your definition of "decent evidence" is not just biased but entirely false.
By your own statement, you have evidence which *can be taken as evidence for God. This is an admission that the evidence also *can be taken as not evidence for God.
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Old 03-23-2019, 06:32 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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I can’t believe this thread is on page 21! And for your information there is no such thing as negative evidence. You can’t prove a negative.

Yep. Atheism is a belief system despite what some people here claim. The anti theology is too consistant. The belief of what happens after death is the same Among the posters here. I could go on.
Please describe the belief system and anti-theology.
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Old 03-23-2019, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I can’t believe this thread is on page 21! And for your information there is no such thing as negative evidence. You can’t prove a negative.

Yep. Atheism is a belief system despite what some people here claim. The anti theology is too consistant. The belief of what happens after death is the same Among the posters here. I could go on.
A "belief system" is not necessarily the same thing as a "religion".
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Old 03-23-2019, 06:48 PM
 
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By your own statement, you have evidence which *can be taken as evidence for God. This is an admission that the evidence also *can be taken as not evidence for God.
What evidence of God would be greater than that which is responsible for the existence of absolutely everything????? It may not be enough for those who want to add MORE attributes but it certainly would meet the minimum evidence making any claim of "no decent evidence" spurious.
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Old 03-23-2019, 07:25 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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What evidence of God would be greater than that which is responsible for the existence of absolutely everything????? It may not be enough for those who want to add MORE attributes but it certainly would meet the minimum evidence making any claim of "no decent evidence" spurious.
Great. Present conclusive evidence that God is responsible for the existence of absolutely everything.
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Old 03-23-2019, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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What evidence of God would be greater than that which is responsible for the existence of absolutely everything????? ...
There is no such evidence. That's an opinion.

And that is what bothers me -- more than anything else -- about religion...when the faithful can't tell the difference between faith and fact.
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