2014 Atlanta City population estimates -- Shows modest growth (Buford, Douglas: taxes, live in)

[UrbanConquistador]

Originally Posted by skbl17

I think these sniping city v. suburb posts are unwarranted. Let's just acknowledge that it's good to see both the City of Atlanta and the suburban counties growing.

Besides, these are census estimates. It's all just guesswork until 2020.

- skbl17

Agreed, however my response was in response to an unprovoked jab at the city. CQ's was correcting said poster in making an apples to oranges comparison. I digress.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by Ant131531

2014 estimate: 456,002

Change 2010-14 (x): 35,746

Pct. change (x): 8.51%

Click here for the source

Not going to lie, I expected at least 10k people growth, maybe even 15k with all of these units being delivered. It's not bad, but it's explosive growth either. I wonder if people are still moving out of the city in droves.

I think these are good numbers and they are moving strongly in the right direction.

It's easy to forget how hard the city was hammered in the 1965-95 era. The last twenty years have seen not only an end to the hemorrhaging but steady and substantial growth.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by skbl17

I think these sniping city v. suburb posts are unwarranted. Let's just acknowledge that it's good to see both the City of Atlanta and the suburban counties growing.

Besides, these are census estimates. It's all just guesswork until 2020.

- skbl17

True, they are estimates. Atlanta's 2010 estimate, for one, was massively overstated. Hopefully the census bureau has corrected the mistakes they made the last decade.

But the point was that a lot of people on here keep putting out false information the Atlanta (and other central cities) are growing faster than the suburbs. Its simply not true. The reverse is true in nearly every metro area in the country.

Its true the central cities tend to be growing after decades of decline. And that's a generally a good thing. But they still aren't growing faster no matter how much "city evangelists" want to believe it.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by Frankster87

Agreed, however my response was in response to an unprovoked jab at the city. CQ's was correcting said poster in making an apples to oranges comparison. I digress.

That poster wasn't jabbing at the city. It was at those who like to claim the suburbs are declining.

[AtlantaIsHot]

It's very true that the suburbs continue to grow. I've looked at the entire list for all of Georgia's incorporated places. Nearly all the suburbs still gained significantly. Sandy Springs, the largest suburb, in particular seems to be on a tear this decade. It went from just under 94,000 at the census to 102,000 in the four year period. It's adding more people than any other suburb.

[hautemomma]

Even Kennesaw grew by nearly 9 percent in four years. The "city" narrative is just not holding up.

Nashville, Tenn., often compared to Atlanta (for good or bad) is consistently said to be experiencing explosive growth, yet the greatest gains are in its surrounding counties: Census: Nashville just shy of Boston in population

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

hautemomma sure loves to dog millenials and urban cities. lol.

What people are saying when the city is doing well is more in reference to the derivative of the population changes. City went from losing significant pop to now gaining decent pop growth. It'd be interesting to see the derivative of yearly pop change of cities compared to their suburbs. It would probably give more of a trend of where things may be heading urban vs suburban.

[J2rescue]

Originally Posted by bu2

That poster wasn't jabbing at the city. It was at those who like to claim the suburbs are declining.

How is it that a post about growth in the city is interpreted as "the suburbs are declining"? Can it just be OK that those that like city living are delighted about growth in the city?

Originally Posted by bu2

True, they are estimates. Atlanta's 2010 estimate, for one, was massively overstated. Hopefully the census bureau has corrected the mistakes they made the last decade.

But the point was that a lot of people on here keep putting out false information the Atlanta (and other central cities) are growing faster than the suburbs. Its simply not true. The reverse is true in nearly every metro area in the country.

Its true the central cities tend to be growing after decades of decline. And that's a generally a good thing. But they still aren't growing faster no matter how much "city evangelists" want to believe it.

Not that its relevant to this thread but in many cases, the city IS growing faster.

Cobb County Population, percent change - April 1, 2010 to July 1, 2014 6.2%
Atlanta City Population, percent change - April 1, 2010 to July 1, 2014 8.51%

8.51% > 6.2%

[hautemomma]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

hautemomma sure loves to dog millenials and urban cities. lol.

Atlanta is not all that urban; it is smaller in population than Nashville, where I'm from.

I don't "dog" urban cities. As a newcomer to Metro Atlanta, I have been dismayed and surprised to learn that there is this big perceived difference or divide in people who live in/support the "City of Atlanta" vs. the general Atlanta Metro area. When I moved here, and even in all my trips and time spent here before, I just viewed the area as a massive metropolitan area, generally referred to as "Atlanta," for lack of a better term without getting into the semantics of the multitude of counties and cities within it (especially for those who are not from here or do not live here and, therefore, don't understand the minutiae of it all). It was not until I planted roots here, in Metro Atlanta, and started spending time in this forum, that I began to experience and notice how "City of Atlanta" people view (and in some cases treat) non-city Metro residents and other towns/counties/communities with derision.

I had never experienced anything like it in my life and had no idea it ran so deep. Being on the receiving end of such perceptions and treatment, I think the narrative needs to be constructively de-constructed, because it is not true that the suburbs are declining. Neither is it factual that Cobb County (and others) is not diverse, progressive in parts or growing quickly.

In fact, based on my experience so far, it feels like non-COA residents have a fuller understanding and exposure to (and appreciation for) the entire metro area than do the COA residents who, at every turn, don't waste an opportunity to put down Cobb, Gwinnett, Cherokee, Clayton or Douglas County. I traverse all these places and more, including the city, and I just don't get the animus thus directed and am, therefore, committed to challenging it.

[AtlantaIsHot]

Originally Posted by hautemomma

Atlanta is not all that urban; it is smaller in population than Nashville, where I'm from.

Please don't go there... Hurling insults isn't going to help you out. Atlanta's urban growth is astonishing and is increasing rapidly. The fact that Nashville is consolidated with the county it's in doesn't mean much for Nashville's "urbanity." It is MOST CERTAINLY NOT more urban than Atlanta. Buckhead is far bigger than downtown Nashville, as is Midtown and Downtown. All of which have a larger urban built footprint than Nashville's core.