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Old 03-30-2017, 11:38 AM
 
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Anyplace in Canada that has anywhere close to comparable Januaries is going to be oceanic and will have much cooler Februaries and Marches (and April, and May...) and will have day lengths of under 8.5 hours compared to just under 10 for Atlanta at the solstice. I would take a frigid, below average January every year in Atlanta if it meant enjoying longer days and a spring season that actually feels like spring.
I'll give the statistics I have. Additional sources are Environment Canada and NOAA (USA).

Unfortunately, the statistics for the Canadian location I have readily available is temperature only. The average winter temperature (meteorological winter defined as December 1 - February 28) in the Canadian location averages about 1 degree higher than Atlanta. The Canadian location is around the Greater Victoria region (about 60 miles from Vancouver?).

Wikipedia search "Atlanta, Georgia"

Also Wikipedia Search "Discovery Island, Canada"

Then compare winter temperatures!

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Old 03-30-2017, 12:13 PM
 
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[quote=sedimenjerry;47683929]Anyplace in Canada that has anywTest
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Old 03-30-2017, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I'll give the statistics I have. Additional sources are Environment Canada and NOAA (USA).

Unfortunately, the statistics for the Canadian location I have readily available is temperature only. The average winter temperature (meteorological winter defined as December 1 - February 28) in the Canadian location averages about 1 degree higher than Atlanta. The Canadian location is around the Greater Victoria region (about 60 miles from Vancouver?).

Wikipedia search "Atlanta, Georgia"

Also Wikipedia Search "Discovery Island, Canada"

Then compare winter temperatures!
Well its a bit deceiving because while the average temperatures between the two locations in Jan and Feb are almost the same Discovery Island achieves this by having very little difference between their average daily highs and lows vs Atlanta which has much higher average daily highs and much lower average daily lows.
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Old 03-30-2017, 03:43 PM
 
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Well its a bit deceiving because while the average temperatures between the two locations in Jan and Feb are almost the same Discovery Island achieves this by having very little difference between their average daily highs and lows vs Atlanta which has much higher average daily highs and much lower average daily lows.
Thanks for weighing in!

I'm not sure if I would quite describe it as deceiving or misleading? Relatively very little cold and stable temperatures actually contribute to mildness. That's actually a "known" fact.

In fact, if I remember correctly, even a place that experiences an average winter (temperature-wise) with unusually stable temperatures will feel as though they've enjoyed a mild winter. So the fact that half the winters in Discovery Island, Canada transpire completely freeze-free (i.e. not a single night below freezing) greatly enhances its "mildness feel", so-to-speak.

The "half of all winters" transpiring completely freeze free is just a crude guess, by-the-way. I have been able to closely examine many years this century, and freeze-free winters are extremely common place in Discovery Island (it's impossible for Atlanta to come even close!).

That all said, I guess if there's a misleading component, it's the fact that Atlanta enjoys a higher number of truly warm, sunny days each winter - although it does experience considerably more "winter" like weather.

Again, thanks for your input!
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Old 03-30-2017, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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I've heard Seattle's winters are similar temperature as Atlanta's, except stable. High of 45 every day, as opposed to high of 35 one day and 55 the next.

Pacific coast temperature stabilization effect in general does sound nice. They don't have to check the weather every single day to know how to dress.
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Old 03-30-2017, 04:03 PM
 
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I've heard Seattle's winters are similar temperature as Atlanta's, except stable. High of 45 every day, as opposed to high of 35 one day and 55 the next.

Pacific coast temperature stabilization effect in general does sound nice. They don't have to check the weather every single day to know how to dress.
Seattle's actually several degrees colder than Discovery Island, Canada in the winter (especially at night!). It's also a few degrees colder than Atlanta.

However, Seattle is still very mild by nation-wide standards and your analogy is still fundamentally correct. Seattle is mild and stable. However, I'll point out that a completely freeze-free winter is almost impossible for Seattle (definitely impossible for Atlanta!). Seattle does know winter-like conditions, albeit pretty rare!
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Old 03-30-2017, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I'll give the statistics I have. Additional sources are Environment Canada and NOAA (USA).

Unfortunately, the statistics for the Canadian location I have readily available is temperature only. The average winter temperature (meteorological winter defined as December 1 - February 28) in the Canadian location averages about 1 degree higher than Atlanta. The Canadian location is around the Greater Victoria region (about 60 miles from Vancouver?).

Wikipedia search "Atlanta, Georgia"

Also Wikipedia Search "Discovery Island, Canada"

Then compare winter temperatures!
I figured it was near Victoria or Vancouver. I was up near there in January but on the Washington side. Was cloudy and in the 40s the whole time. Personally I prefer at least getting some mild weather in the daytime even if it gets a little colder at night.
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Old 03-31-2017, 06:55 AM
 
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I figured it was near Victoria or Vancouver. I was up near there in January but on the Washington side. Was cloudy and in the 40s the whole time. Personally I prefer at least getting some mild weather in the daytime even if it gets a little colder at night.
Why does everyone have to visit the Pacific Northwest region during a cold winter? This last winter was its coldest in recent memory.

Cliff Mass Weather Blog: The coldest winter in a generation for the Pacific Northwest

Adjust your time there maybe a couple of degrees higher to take away some of the winter chill and it would be a little bit more representative. In any event, Discovery Island (Canada) is one of the very mildest locations in the region, so you would have noticed it being a little bit warmer there, no doubt.

In any event, it's generally still a very stable climate. If it was cloudy and in the 40s the entire time you were there in January, it couldn't have been all that far off the mark. So, you have a general idea. Just adjust it to slightly warmer...and again, Discovery Island is a little bit warmer still.
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Old 03-31-2017, 07:05 AM
 
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I figured it was near Victoria or Vancouver. I was up near there in January but on the Washington side. Was cloudy and in the 40s the whole time. Personally I prefer at least getting some mild weather in the daytime even if it gets a little colder at night.
I expect that you felt chilly in Washington state this winter (January) since it experienced one of its coldest winters ever while you (in Atlanta) were concurrently enjoying one of your warmest winters ever. Go there next winter and I'm sure it will be much more like it.

However, you are right. Historically, the winter daytime typically heats up and is noticeably warmer in Atlanta than the Pacific Northwest. That's good if you don't like the significantly more frigid winter nights in Atlanta.
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Old 03-31-2017, 08:16 AM
 
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I figured it was near Victoria or Vancouver. I was up near there in January but on the Washington side. Was cloudy and in the 40s the whole time. Personally I prefer at least getting some mild weather in the daytime even if it gets a little colder at night.
I agree. Nice sunny afternoons in the 50s are much better than being 45 degrees and cloudy all the time.
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