...World Class this, World Class that

[Mutiny77]

Originally Posted by DavePa

In reading many threads where Atlanta is in and Atlanta posters are a VAST majority..... they are on the offensive to boost and boast for their city. One comes in it soon becomes most.

If you're talking about the City vs City and General USA subforums, that's not what I see at all. As a Southern/Sunbelt city, Atlanta gets more than its fair share of flack. Much of what you see as boosterism is actually Atlantans on the defensive.

[Psykomonkee]

Originally Posted by gottalottabees

Looks like a bunch of 'insiders' validating ATL's 'world class' status... Let's be clear about a few things:

1.) ATL 'prostituted' itself for the 96' Olympics, something 'world class' cities don't have to do.

2.) The airport situation is solely because of location i.e. being within a 2 hour flight of 80% of the U.S. population, Atlanta acts as a 'connector' not a final destination for a lot of travelers. That coupled with there only being ONE major airport in the region, as most 'world class' cities have multiple, surely inflates the foot traffic numbers.

1.) ATL 'prostituted' itself for the 96' Olympics, something 'world class' cities don't have to do.

That's retarded... ALL cities that get the Olympics prostituted themselves to get it. Everyone already knows the IOC is corrupt. Atlanta is no less than acceptable choice anomaly. Not when the games (summer or winter) have been to cities like St. Louis, Antwerp, Turin, Pyeongchang, Salt Lake City, Lake Placid and a slew of other less than impressive cities, why point act as though Atlanta was the one classless attendee to the party? It's that very attitude towards Atlanta that creates the Boosters and their seemingly insecure attitude. Some love Atlanta, then it just seems like so many love to hate Atlanta for no good reason. And just because a city is in Europe, doesn't make it "World Class." Especially when it's not very ethnically diverse like the majority of the cities that get awarded the games, so why not Atlanta?

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by gottalottabees

Good job Atlanta CD posters...according to you all, you are world class. Rest easy now.

Some are certainly classier than others, that's for certain.

[aslowdodge]

Originally Posted by Otakumaster

I see people who don’t live here come in here to spew vitriol or knock down anything positive about Atlanta . I never see that in any other city forum.

You must not even go to any other forums. Go to the California forums, they get ripped on way more than Atlanta.
Funny thing is they complain non residents constantly bash California and that they don't se that on other forums.

[meep]

Originally Posted by chiatldal

You can literally post a bunch youtube videos about anything it will not make you point.


Usually when people or things draws the most or do the best it usually draws haters and jealousy. Atlanta by far has been gaining the most black in the country. That's not opinon that's a fact.

In fact that's what upset those haters because Atlanta image with blacks in generally not what those hatters want it be. So your trying to use haters attempt to counter Atlanta popular image, as popular image. Like the Black Mecca thing why would people make videos to counter the black Mecca thing if Atlanta wasn't view popular and "the black Mecca"? That's the whole reason they them because Atlanta is popular and they don't that it is.






The funny things about this comment is YES PEOPLE DO, Atlanta is looked at as a black Hollywood I grew up back and forth between ATL and Texas, And in Texas they use ask me did I run into celebrates. I thought it was silly but yes that does happen.


This is why keep stating I don't think yall begin to understand how significant and large the number on multi platinum and Grammy artists have came from Atlanta or move to Atlanta from early 90's up to now. Most Americans cities don't have 1/10 the amount of famous artists Atlanta produce.



https://cdn.citylab.com/media/img/ci...raphic-600.jpg

In fact you have tell people, that some artists are not from Atlanta, cause some people assume if they hear a trap beat the artist is from Atlanta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8m9zhNAgKs


Again most people are not geography nerds like us.. they are not familiar with Atlanta traffic anymore or less than they are of DC, Boston or Dallas. The only people have any remote knowledge of traffic in these cities are people who actual had experience in these cities, it not something people bring to identify these cities. General perception is all major cities have bad traffic and ironically the only true cities famous for traffic is LA and NY. For decades LA and NY traffic has been dozens films and other media as entity itself. There nothing like that in that magnitude presenting the image of Atlanta traffic the way LA and NY has been.

If you don’t think “Atlanta traffic” is a thing, that’s on you. I hear less of it on here than in real life, people from NY especially complain about how long it takes to get places here. You might say “well, that’s just sprawl” but traffic is a function of that sprawl.

[DavePa]

Originally Posted by meep

If you don’t think “Atlanta traffic” is a thing, that’s on you. I hear less of it on here than in real life, people from NY especially complain about how long it takes to get places here. You might say “well, that’s just sprawl” but traffic is a function of that sprawl.

I posted this before. But a good comparison of cities in traffic effected by a grid city vs a non-grid Atlanta an how its streets force you to use the freeways/expressways.

How an Urban Grid Prevents Atlanta heart-attack traffic

from link:

- The ARC [Atlanta Regional Commission] was not in the business of building roads (or anything else), which meant that most counties were left with little alternative but to accept new residential roads as ‘gifts’ from private developers. As a result, aside from a few places, a secondary network of through routes did not emerge by accretion as in other regions of the country. In other words, the grid so common in many urban areas simply never came to exist in metropolitan Atlanta, a fact that forced distributed traffic patterns into a constrained system of arterials and freeways.

- For a time, this street hierarchy was considered the best design to achieve admirable goals: a sense of community (which cul de sacs arguably achieve), traffic calming, and efficient, place-appropriate speeds from one point to another. It looks like a spaghetti mess, but there is a satisfying logic to it. The system is designed to funnel cars into high-capacity roadways, keeping drivers from using residential streets as through-routes. The grid is physically orderly; the street hierarchy is conceptually orderly.

- But there’s a problem with funneling. When the funnel clogs, it reduces the number of alternate routes, causing a “traffic heart attack.” Think of how you can get around in Chicago—if someone wipes out and blocks an entire major artery, there are multiple routes to another one, usually in three or four directions.



Chicago doesn't have super wide expressways. You get 3-4 lanes each direction and one expressway has two lanes that are express lanes that get reversed in mornings to the core and afternoons away from it. Still expressways run slow in peak periods. But less -- heart-attack gridlock as you can exit to talk alternate routes to the core easily. Just you got all the traffic lights and stop signs.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by DavePa

I posted this before. But a good comparison of cities in traffic effected by a grid city vs a non-grid Atlanta an how its streets force you to use the freeways/expressways.

How an Urban Grid Prevents Atlanta heart-attack traffic

from link:

- The ARC [Atlanta Regional Commission] was not in the business of building roads (or anything else), which meant that most counties were left with little alternative but to accept new residential roads as ‘gifts’ from private developers. As a result, aside from a few places, a secondary network of through routes did not emerge by accretion as in other regions of the country. In other words, the grid so common in many urban areas simply never came to exist in metropolitan Atlanta, a fact that forced distributed traffic patterns into a constrained system of arterials and freeways.

- For a time, this street hierarchy was considered the best design to achieve admirable goals: a sense of community (which cul de sacs arguably achieve), traffic calming, and efficient, place-appropriate speeds from one point to another. It looks like a spaghetti mess, but there is a satisfying logic to it. The system is designed to funnel cars into high-capacity roadways, keeping drivers from using residential streets as through-routes. The grid is physically orderly; the street hierarchy is conceptually orderly.

- But there’s a problem with funneling. When the funnel clogs, it reduces the number of alternate routes, causing a “traffic heart attack.” Think of how you can get around in Chicago—if someone wipes out and blocks an entire major artery, there are multiple routes to another one, usually in three or four directions.



Chicago doesn't have super wide expressways. You get 3-4 lanes each direction and one expressway has two lanes that are express lanes that get reversed in mornings to the core and afternoons away from it. Still expressways run slow in peak periods. But less -- heart-attack gridlock as you can exit to talk alternate routes to the core easily. Just you got all the traffic lights and stop signs.

And its not just the lack of a grid, but the lack of arterials. For example in Dekalb, you have mostly 2 lane Briarcliff/Moreland which curves into Clairmont south of I-85 and starts going E-W. Clairmont ends in Decatur and at Peachtree Industrial. Candler only runs south from Decatur. There's no other significant N/S arterial inside 285 in Dekalb County. Its far harder to get to Dunwoody from central Dekalb than to most places in Fulton County. The E/W arterials aren't much better than the N/S.