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Old 02-08-2019, 05:01 AM
 
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It's Georgia, "business friendly" and moderate Republicans no longer exist. The party has gone far right. Likely a democrat (Bordeaux) will be 7th and McBath in the 6th.

The downer? Republicans know they can only keep control if they bend the rules to diminish the will of the people as much as possible. Look for the Republicans to use 2020 redistricting process to gerrymander 6th and 7th districts in a way that Republicans easily win the seats again.
I don’t know if that will be possible in the 6th and 7th. Nor is it appropriate.

I have to believe the majority of independents - the group that matters most in close elections - in the northern suburbs are moderately religious, socially moderate, and fiscally moderate to conservative.

Focusing on religious liberty is a mistake. Focusing on social issues at all are a mistake. Focusing on growth, opportunity and local issues is the right approach.

McBath can also make a mistake if she believes that AOC is representative of what the Democrats stand for and turns further left.
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Old 02-08-2019, 05:17 AM
 
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I don’t know if that will be possible in the 6th and 7th. Nor is it appropriate.

I have to believe the majority of independents - the group that matters most in close elections - in the northern suburbs are moderately religious, socially moderate, and fiscally moderate to conservative.

Focusing on religious liberty is a mistake. Focusing on social issues at all are a mistake. Focusing on growth, opportunity and local issues is the right approach.

McBath can also make a mistake if she believes that AOC is representative of what the Democrats stand for and turns further left.
GA-7 is full of immigrants and will be majority people of color in 2020. It’s full of college educated women who’ve been fleeing the Republican Party and it’s going to be a tough district for an R. Add in the fact that many of the people who will vote in the primary are going to be anything but socially moderate and the idea that the candidate is going to be the type of Republican who has been almost entirely run out of the party seems like wishful thinking.

The much more likely scenario is that a Dem wins in 2020 and is gerrymandered out of office in 2022.
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Old 02-08-2019, 06:00 AM
 
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GA-7 is full of immigrants and will be majority people of color in 2020. It’s full of college educated women who’ve been fleeing the Republican Party and it’s going to be a tough district for an R. Add in the fact that many of the people who will vote in the primary are going to be anything but socially moderate and the idea that the candidate is going to be the type of Republican who has been almost entirely run out of the party seems like wishful thinking.

The much more likely scenario is that a Dem wins in 2020 and is gerrymandered out of office in 2022.
Quite possible. But these immigrants and people of color are largely Asian. They work hard, want to keep their money and aren’t as compassionate as liberal whites towards African Americans.

Your point about the primary is valid. They tend to attract the extremes in both parties.

I need to get active in the 6th and get in touch with the R party leadership. I’m not registered R but they need to face reality.
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Old 02-08-2019, 06:14 AM
 
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Quite possible. But these immigrants and people of color are largely Asian. They work hard, want to keep their money and aren’t as compassionate as liberal whites towards African Americans.

Your point about the primary is valid. They tend to attract the extremes in both parties.

I need to get active in the 6th and get in touch with the R party leadership. I’m not registered R but they need to face reality.
Asians overwhelmingly voted Dem in 2018. They’re the reason a multi-term incumbent came within less than 500 votes of losing in 2018. The people who drew GA-7’s boundaries underestimated the rapidity of demographic change in the district, especially the portion that is in Forsyth. It’s supposed to be a safe R district and it isn’t any longer.

Having a racist xenophobe at the top of the ticket and no incumbent will make it a more challenging district for a Republican in 2020 than it was in 2018. As for Republicans facing reality, good luck with that. Karl Rove gathered Republicans in 1999 to yell at them that they needed to change their ways. They’ve only become more hostile to PoCs and more avowedly the party of less educated whites people and evangelicals since then.
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:06 PM
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Asians overwhelmingly voted Dem in 2018. They’re the reason a multi-term incumbent came within less than 500 votes of losing in 2018. The people who drew GA-7’s boundaries underestimated the rapidity of demographic change in the district, especially the portion that is in Forsyth. It’s supposed to be a safe R district and it isn’t any longer.

Having a racist xenophobe at the top of the ticket and no incumbent will make it a more challenging district for a Republican in 2020 than it was in 2018. As for Republicans facing reality, good luck with that. Karl Rove gathered Republicans in 1999 to yell at them that they needed to change their ways. They’ve only become more hostile to PoCs and more avowedly the party of less educated whites people and evangelicals since then.
People talking like you are the reason people are fleeing the Democrats.

The biggest number are independents.
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:19 PM
 
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Ga-6 is one of the targeted districts for the RNC IN 2020. Depends on the R candidate fielded for Ga-7 as to whether Boudreaux is elected. She will have name recognition and knowledge of the district having just run. And she starts with 150K on hand to start.
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Old 02-08-2019, 01:02 PM
 
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People talking like you are the reason people are fleeing the Democrats.

The biggest number are independents.
Largest mid-term loss ever. So, no, people aren’t fleeing the Democrats.

I hate to disappoint you but Independents are, with a very small number of exceptions, partisans who choose not to register with a party. Pew has data showing that Independents are somewhat more partisan than voters registered with either party. They are not neutral, ticket splinters or people who waver between parties. We have decades worth of voting data demonstrating that. Moreover, the trend over the past few decades is for a decline in the already small number of ticket splitters.

The movement of white college educated voters away from voting republican, women especially, is a problem for Rs in suburban districts like GA-7. Beyond that the district’s demographics are what they are and they don’t favor Rs. GA-7 is one of the very few majority PoC districts held by a Republican. GA-7 is only going to be less white in 2020. Not to worry, if a D does win in 2020 he/she will get gerrymandered out of office anyway. They’ll extend the district into Dawson County if they have to.

As for racism and xenophobia, the people who self identify as racists and xenpobes believe Trump to be one of them. I’m satisfied with taking their word for it. Apparently so are Latinx, Asian and AA voters. And as I mentioned Rove and others have exhorted the party to be more welcoming / less hostile to no avail. Instead we got “murderers, rapists ... and some I suppose are good people”.

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Old 02-09-2019, 03:45 AM
 
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Back in January, before Georgia 7th District U.S. Representative Rob Woodall had announced his impending retirement from Congress, the University of Virginia's Center for Politics' Professor Larry J. Sabato and his political prognosticators in the national political publication, "Sabato's Crystal Ball," had rated the Georgia 7th Congressional District as a "Toss-Up" district heading into the 2020 Presidential election cycle.
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Unsurprisingly, the most vulnerable seats on both sides are ones that generally were very close in 2018, will likely vote for the other party’s presidential nominee in 2020, or both...
...The GOP Toss-up column includes the vacant NC-9, two of three remaining Hillary Clinton-won districts held by Republicans (PA-1 and TX-23, both of which were decided by close margins in 2018), and two Trump-won suburban districts (GA-7 and NE-2) that were also very close in 2018 and that could break against the president in 2020.
Very interestingly, the same "Sabato's Crystal Ball" article also rated the neighboring Georgia 6th Congressional District seat very narrowly won by Democrat Lucy McBath in 2018 as "Leans Democratic" heading into the 2020 Presidential election cycle.

"HOUSE 2020: OUR INITIAL RATINGS... Democratic overperformance in 2018 gives the majority party breathing room to start, but a GOP presidential win could put the House in play" (Larry J. Sabato's Crystal Ball/University of Virginia Center for Politics)
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Old 02-09-2019, 05:32 AM
 
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Quite possible. But these immigrants and people of color are largely Asian. They work hard, want to keep their money and aren’t as compassionate as liberal whites towards African Americans.
This comment is bizarre


1. First off It make it seem people who "work hard" are just Republicans as Democrats don't, When Democrat is party of worker rights, advocates increasing medium wage and etc. Also the Democrat advocate a tax increase on the top percentage and often a decrease on the middle class.


2. The second thing, it makes that only Asians "work hard" but I guess "compassionate" need "African Americans." don't And Asians and African Americans communities are at odds,

3. It also ignore racism just doesn't effect African Americans but the xenophobia and prejudice attitude of the right in the Trump era also affects Asians, Hispanics, Arabs and etc. Which is why over 2/3 their community voted Democrat.


Asian-Americans Favored Democrats By Far In Midterms: Exit Poll

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Attacks on immigrants and racist rhetoric, increasingly aimed at Asian immigrants and Asian-Americans, had some harmful consequences for the Republican Party,” he told HuffPost.

The exit poll, conducted in English as well as 11 Asian languages, was taken in 50 cities in 14 states. The poll revealed that in both Senate and gubernatorial races, Asian-Americans supported Democratic candidates at levels far higher than overall voters did. Asian-Americans’ preference for Democratic candidates was corroborated by The New York Times’ exit poll data that show the group has swung further left than any other racial group.

In the Georgia gubernatorial race, Asian-American voters supported Democrat Stacey Abrams at more than 80 percent while only 15 percent supported Republican candidate Brian Kemp.
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Old 02-09-2019, 06:37 AM
 
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This comment is bizarre


1. First off It make it seem people who "work hard" are just Republicans as Democrats don't, When Democrat is party of worker rights, advocates increasing medium wage and etc. Also the Democrat advocate a tax increase on the top percentage and often a decrease on the middle class.


2. The second thing, it makes that only Asians "work hard" but I guess "compassionate" need "African Americans." don't And Asians and African Americans communities are at odds,

3. It also ignore racism just doesn't effect African Americans but the xenophobia and prejudice attitude of the right in the Trump era also affects Asians, Hispanics, Arabs and etc. Which is why over 2/3 their community voted Democrat.


Asian-Americans Favored Democrats By Far In Midterms: Exit Poll
We’ll just agree to disagree.
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