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Old 08-30-2023, 10:49 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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https://insideevs.com/news/683369/20...ge-efficiency/

The battery pack has greater capacity now and the vehicle itself is more efficient so there are some pretty substantial increases to range. The battery pack also accepts a higher max charge rate so coupled with the increased capacity of its battery pack, the charge time from 10% to 80% remains the same, but each percent is equal to more range than before and each kWh of energy yields more miles of range.

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  • Q8 e-tron quattro (20-inch): 285 miles (up 59 miles or 26%)
  • Q8 e-tron Sportback (Ultra pack, 19-inch): 300 miles (new)
  • Q8 e-tron Sportback (20-inch): 296 miles (up 71 miles or 32%)
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Old 09-09-2023, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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https://insideevs.com/news/683369/20...ge-efficiency/

The battery pack has greater capacity now and the vehicle itself is more efficient so there are some pretty substantial increases to range. The battery pack also accepts a higher max charge rate so coupled with the increased capacity of its battery pack, the charge time from 10% to 80% remains the same, but each percent is equal to more range than before and each kWh of energy yields more miles of range.
A lot of nice improvements. Tesla is on paper still ahead on range with the Model Y, however it's emerged that Tesla rates its vehicles quite optimistically, and according to Reuters, even has the software rigged to pretend it's getting that kind of range - which is extremely sleazy, and also on-brand for Elon Musk!
https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesl...rse-elon-musk/
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Old 10-25-2023, 10:34 AM
 
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My buddy traded a 10 month old Etron SUV, lost 20K off what he paid and it had about 6000 miles on it, no wrecks/garage kept. He just didn't like it and bought something else. Dealer really didn't want it on trade.
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Old 10-25-2023, 11:34 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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My buddy traded a 10 month old Etron SUV, lost 20K off what he paid and it had about 6000 miles on it, no wrecks/garage kept. He just didn't like it and bought something else. Dealer really didn't want it on trade.
Did your buddy buy it during the pandemic high mark and did he buy it new? The supply constraints early on meant dealer's were marking things up a lot and then the end of the supply constraints meant a return to depreciation as soon as you drive off the lot which generally hits premium vehicles harder. A lot of people got hosed that way on a variety of vehicles.

The e-tron SUV also got hit harder because it received a major upgrade this year with greater battery capacity, much longer range, higher charging speed, and faster performance to go along with the usual slight interior and exterior tweaks. Generally when things like this are about to happen, it's usually possible to look this stuff up and know it's coming down the river so you can bargain the price down but doesn't seem like your buddy did so. Vehicle generations generally work with major upgrades within 4 to 9 years of each release (and usually a notable but less substantial mid-generation refresh at about the halfway point). That refresh came in at year 5 and there was a good year and a half of candid shots and announcements before the refresh, so this might have been avoidable if he did his research. This goes for any major new vehicle purchase because depreciation generally hits hard and immediately.

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Old 11-11-2023, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Glad I balked on buying the E-Tron I wanted. I was afraid to buy due to coming battery improvements, so thought about leasing, but then ditched Audi completely when the cars kept getting delayed for U.S. market.

Any EV I get would be leased. Tech is changing too fast.
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