Shiraz or syrah? (best, Australian, pronounce)

[Samuel,J]

How do you say it?

I'm for "shiraz" but only when it's an Aussie grape.

Me asking for an Australian gewurztraminer has caused a few giggles at Dan Murphy's.

[WildColonialGirl]

Shi-rahz

See-rah

But Australians don't use Syrah unless it's for export to the US or they're utter tossers. How did you pronounce Gewurtz?

[Samuel,J]

Guv-erts-tramina.

I've heard the t in pinot noir a few times, how common is that or is that just Qld?

[Mouldy Old Schmo]

Que syrah, syrah...

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by Samuel,J

How do you say it?

I'm for "shiraz" but only when it's an Aussie grape.

Me asking for an Australian gewurztraminer has caused a few giggles at Dan Murphy's.

Agree with the varietal labeling. As an FYI it's really only the lesser varietal that gets labeled Syrah from Australian wineries as Australian Shiraz tends to be a little more full bodied than Syrah from other regions (except South Africa).

[Samuel,J]

Interesting thank you. What are the better wineries?

[WildColonialGirl]

Originally Posted by Samuel,J

Guv-erts-tramina.

I've heard the t in pinot noir a few times, how common is that or is that just Qld?

Oh dear lord. Just QLD.

[Samuel,J]

Much as I suspected.

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by Samuel,J

Interesting thank you. What are the better wineries?

Wineries in the Barossa probably produce the best Australian Shiraz, a combination of age of the vines and climate.

[Samuel,J]

Cheers, I feel a trip to Dan's coming up.