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Old 08-04-2018, 12:12 AM
 
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Yes another milestone about to be reached, folks, in Australia's 230 year settlement. The 25th million person will come into being on Australian soil, next Tuesday the 7 August 2018.


Hardly significant compared to The States, Texas alone has more people at 28 million. While India adds 15 million a year.


The 'big deal' being that the number of 25 million was forecast to be arrived at in the year 2040. We are a whole generation ahead of projected number.


Some may recall, well probably few come to think of it, but it was indeed said by the then Conservative Immigration Minister Ruddock, in the early 2000's when immigration was booted to 100,000, "It would be essential to Australia's economic and social development and would put the nation on to a trajectory to reach a population of 25 million by 2040".


The reason we are 22 years ahead is made clear by ABS data.


1.42 seconds a baby is born
3.16 seconds someone dies
1.1 seconds someone arrives in Australia
1.51 seconds someone leaves Australia


That's 152,600 natural increase
262,488 net overseas migration


The biggest increase are people on temporally visas to study, work or travel.


For the period 16-17 539,000 arrived but only 276,000 left......
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Old 08-04-2018, 03:22 AM
 
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3222.0 - Population Projections, Australia, 1997 to 2051

Check out this one from 1997, we could hit the maximum 2051 projection in 2020.
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Old 08-04-2018, 07:27 PM
 
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3222.0 - Population Projections, Australia, 1997 to 2051

Check out this one from 1997, we could hit the maximum 2051 projection in 2020.


How the tide turns. Such as what has been happening over the past decade would not have been imaginable back in 97.


My take being on the matter being smaller populated countries, take Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Netherlands etc, is that more of the pie is evenly spread among more people.


Bigger populations require more resources, not necessary by any means expanding the pie, but ensure more compete. Great for business and assorted rent seekers, not so good on an individual basis. More stress ,lowing living standards, the deal was of course run away house prices to keep large segments quiet.
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Old 08-05-2018, 01:55 AM
 
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I see, I remember the population was 17 million, and it was not so long ago. It seems the population growth is fast.
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Old 08-05-2018, 05:13 PM
 
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I see, I remember the population was 17 million, and it was not so long ago. It seems the population growth is fast.
Some may suggest control has been lost with population being a mainstay to growth. Be that with GDP or the construction industry which now employs one million people, or indeed the 'education industry' that relies on ever more international students for funding or business importing short term workers, some of whom may even go home ....
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Old 08-07-2018, 07:32 PM
 
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Well the time has passed. According to ABS the likelihood was the 25th million person entered the country as a migrant, about 11pm last night. Was most likely Chinese.


Only three years or less to go until the next million.
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Old 08-10-2018, 02:34 AM
 
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Well the time has passed. According to ABS the likelihood was the 25th million person entered the country as a migrant, about 11pm last night. Was most likely Chinese.


Only three years or less to go until the next million.
The growth rate certainly is very fast now, and probably unsustainable in the long term.
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Old 08-10-2018, 02:41 AM
 
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The growth rate certainly is very fast now, and probably unsustainable in the long term.
Clearly not. Sadly the government is looking at the bottom line, besides being clueless as to preventing a housing price collapse, beyond flooding, well not the country exactly, and there's the rub, close on ninety per cent of incomers going to only the two main cities.
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Old 09-29-2018, 05:15 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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The immigration rate is currently too high, and is unsustainable because infrastructure can't keep up and the population is far too centred on major cities which bear the brunt of the immigration, namely Sydney and my own Melbourne. I don't think it's racist at all to slash it by 2/3 and place greater emphasis on local students in universities. I couldn't give two ****s about the economy going rotten for 5 years or whatever as a result of this, I don't want to be choked with people this quickly.

Unrelated, but you've made a lot of threads OP. Lol.
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Old 09-29-2018, 11:22 PM
 
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It can hardly be termed racist if numbers are returned to at least 'norms'. There are of course a lot profiting 'rent seekers', with maintaining historically high rates, be those, real estate industry, employers, education 'industry' migration industry, financial and of course government doing very well out of the whole sordid affair. Clueless it would appear to come up with any real solutions to poor governance, with the added dreaded fear, that the bottom will fall out of the over inflated housing industry and impact both them and the economy with considerable consequences.


A reset is badly needed, but it increasingly looks the government will only act when hand forced too, which will only likely in worse case scenario's.


At least a Banking Royal Commission brought to light a number of abuses, and some tightening of dishonest practices, but this has been clear for sometime, with resistance to any inquiry.
How about a Royal Commission into migration rorts? Far too much dishonesty, cover ups, non transparency of present system. How did education for example, ever be so associated with migration? Back packers using the temporally work visa, once used in combination with holiday and travel and supporting stay by casual work, become another form of migration for some?


Don't do threads anymore. Just tried to kick of The OZ/NZ section a bit with topics of the day instead of travel queries but to minimum avail. Just an occasional commenter these days, due to lack of interest, and the hijacking of another thread, by somewhat unsavoury types which their entitled, but too little challenges around some cringe worthy comments, from others in response.
I guess less folk are interested in discussion forums these days, preferring other forms, where one liners prove adequate.
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