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In the mountains of Colorado, an AWD subie with a low center of gravity is simply unrivaled by anyone except Audi.
And if you want to spend 60 grand on an admittedly good-looking but poorly-built, unreliable German car well...go nuts. Most who live in tough driving conditions prefer to spend half that and get an AWD system that may even be slightly better than Quattro.
Among our cars, we have both an Audi A4 and a Sube Legacy. There is a difference.
I don't want to get into a long comparo/debate ...in some ways it is apples and oranges and especially when we add which model/equipment etc...but for me the Audi (many years older and with a lot of miles on it) is still my preference in both extreme winter conditions and overall handling. It is also more comfortable, plush, etc.
I like the Sube for what it is, but it isn't an Audi. Our next new car may be another Audi. I will accept the higher price (NOT $60k if you buy a comparable to Sube model (A4)...maybe $60k for a loaded A6 or such but that is a car of another level), and risk/accept the higher maintenance and cost of ownership.
Uh, we will keep the Sube for a few more years too it is a fine car too.
they advertise on the radio a lot. the one i heard this morning is some lady talking about driving to garage sales and there was always a guy with a subaru who would get there before her. but now he better watch out because she has a subaru now. then she says "or maybe she should go into business together."
to me, its just very embarrassing to hear those commercials and want to get the car. what kind of person is that commercial supposed to appeal to?
For a # of years they have offered AWD as standard on every vehicle. I'd have to guess that a good portion of the country wouldn't want the price and mileage penalty that comes with AWD.
However, it appears that Subaru will no longer offer AWD as standard on all vehicles. The 2013 BRZ is RWD only.
When i was in Outback Australia drove a 2wd Forester. You had to msnuallynput it in Awd mode. Wish they came ike that in thr US
Among our cars, we have both an Audi A4 and a Sube Legacy. There is a difference.
I don't want to get into a long comparo/debate ...in some ways it is apples and oranges and especially when we add which model/equipment etc...but for me the Audi (many years older and with a lot of miles on it) is still my preference in both extreme winter conditions and overall handling. It is also more comfortable, plush, etc.
I like the Sube for what it is, but it isn't an Audi. Our next new car may be another Audi. I will accept the higher price (NOT $60k if you buy a comparable to Sube model (A4)...maybe $60k for a loaded A6 or such but that is a car of another level), and risk/accept the higher maintenance and cost of ownership.
Uh, we will keep the Sube for a few more years too it is a fine car too.
The Audi A4 is also more expensive to purchase used and reliability for older cars is genrally not as good.
I'm sure it is a much more luxurious vehicle, though.
I think the only Subies that make much sense where there is no snow (or for someone who drives on muddy roads a lot) is the WRX and such.
If someone does not drive on "traction-challenged" surfaces, ever since Subie went all AWD, it's just a heavier, thirstier, more expensive car with little to recommend it over various FWD and RWD cars out there, IMHO.
I have a 2010 Outback and I live in western NC, we can get quite a bit of snow and it has been great. One thing no one has mentioned is beach driving. It is awesome for driving out on the beach (Outerbanks for example) where the sand is pretty soft.
i heard a radio ad yesterday where a guy was saying he had all these older brothers and growing up he would always try to be different from them. so he would always choose the thing that nobody else chooses. he skateboarded when others play football, he ordered the pistacio when others ordered vanilla ice cream, etc. then he figures thats what led him to subaru.
how is this concept appealing? id like to include forester into my consideration for a new car, but amazingly these commercials are actually turning me off to the car. i dont want a car that says that im different in some way. i dont really like my car to say too much except "this person drives to work in a small suv."
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it is a fine car too.
