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Old 05-07-2013, 07:56 PM
 
Location: USA
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They said the limo doors were locked for some reason: Limo fire victims get outpouring of support - SFGate

The survivors said the driver "didn't do anything" ... he may have froze or was in shock.
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High-proof alcohol & cigarettes and/or cigars may have had something to do with this.
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Most vehicles automatically lock all the doors, from the time you're going about 5 mph, until you turn off the ignition and pull the key. It's a "safety feature."

That's probably why the doors were locked.

Even so, had they not panicked (which all of us would have done), the girls might have been able to unlock the doors manually.
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Limo driver didn't even try to help the passengers. He just jumped out. That's the way witnesses are telling it.
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Flaming a drink impresses friends and shows everyone its high alcohol content. Liquor that is 40 to 50 percent alcohol, or 80 to 100 proof, have flash points of about 80 degrees, which means it ignites easily. A flash point is the lowest temperature where a liquid mixture vaporizes and catches on fire.
Smokes and high-proof alcohol sound like a disaster. Wasn't there a few stories not to long ago stating some e-cigs were highly explosive?

If the guy jumped out and did nothing. What is he going to do when half his limo is on fire? Run in and die? I'm confused here.
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Old 05-07-2013, 09:08 PM
 
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If smokes and high-proof alcohol were a problem of this nature, wouldn't we have heard plenty of stories of bar fires?

For a fire this intense, I think a highly flammable liquid or gas would need to be continuously "spraying". i.e. pressurized fuel which is pressurized by the fuel pump running.

Search Youtube for gasoline fire - very intense!
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Old 05-07-2013, 09:15 PM
 
Location: where people are either too stupid to leave or too stuck to move
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Limo driver didn't even try to help the passengers. He just jumped out. That's the way witnesses are telling it.
He helped pulled a woman or two thru the partition of the car but by time he got to the back (only 2mins) it was up I'm flames
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Old 05-07-2013, 09:19 PM
 
Location: California
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He helped pulled a woman or two thru the partition of the car but by time he got to the back (only 2mins) it was up I'm flames
One of the surviving women disagrees with HIM pulling them out. She says he just got out of the car and they managed to squeeze through the partition on tneir own. He says he pulled them out.
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Old 05-07-2013, 09:31 PM
 
Location: U.S.A.
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As someone pointed out, no auto manufacturer "makes" limos. They are modified after market by several different companies. Since they are not manufacturing vehicles, but only modifying existing, certified cars, they are not required to adhere to the same standards auto manufactures are. There have been crash tests for limos, but it's not something done every year a new model of car is released by the manufacturer. In short, it's most likely the caused by someone's butcher job of making the limo, something that was just waiting to happen.
This...

There are several companies that perform these "stretches" and they typically do all the work under one roof... frame/chassis/body work, electrical, upholstery, etc. The quality from company to company can be vastly different, "you get what you pay for" is completely relevant in this business. Many of the companies, which are based in California, are essentially glorified chop shops entirely comprised of illegals working for next to nothing. In short... it doesn't surprise me that one of these went up in flames, likely due to poor workmanship. There is quite a bit of amperage running to the back of these kind of vehicles to power all of the auxiliary systems, especially in warm weather.
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Old 05-07-2013, 09:36 PM
 
Location: U.S.A.
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Limo driver didn't even try to help the passengers. He just jumped out. That's the way witnesses are telling it.
Hes a driver, there is no obligation for him to suddenly become emergency rescue.
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Old 05-07-2013, 09:46 PM
 
Location: California
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Hes a driver, there is no obligation for him to suddenly become emergency rescue.
Maybe not as a Driver, but certainly, as a human being. JMO
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Old 05-07-2013, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Long Neck,De
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One of the surviving women disagrees with HIM pulling them out. She says he just got out of the car and they managed to squeeze through the partition on tneir own. He says he pulled them out.
One of the woman on TV said he did not immediately pull over when they began saying there was smoke.
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:32 AM
 
Location: U.S.A.
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Maybe not as a Driver, but certainly, as a human being. JMO
True, but it seems everyone is singling him out since he was the driver he must have some inherent responsibility to rescue everyone from disaster. If it was too dangerous, he shouldn't have done it.
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:40 AM
 
Location: NJ
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One of the woman on TV said he did not immediately pull over when they began saying there was smoke.
The driver said he thought the women were asking if they could smoke at first. I'm guessing the radio was probably playing at the time.
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