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Old 08-20-2015, 09:07 PM
 
Location: NJ
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To the defense of butt boy:

Look at that picture with guy with his pants around his boxers (butt boy). We all here have no idea about the guys work ethic we just have the impression of his personal taste in dress. Which appears to be comfortable.

For all we know that guy might be the most reliable and conscientious worker on the line.

If we had a picture of another worker in a crisp polo and slacks the snap judgement being made on this thread would be that is an excellent worker. He may also be one of the workers who likes to get drunk and high on lunch break and feels the best way to hide it is to just look better off then his peers. Truth is we do not know based on look.

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I think that's the problem here in the impression. We are talking about factory workers. Not suit and tie guys. The business and union agreed to allow them to dress this way. So they are allowed to dress to their preference. A lot of the comments are peoples personal bias. When the accurate impressions should be why didn't the company have enough foresight to at least require overalls. Then again the companies in question have already made a long track record of poor decision making.

The real problem I have with all of this is. In auto hauling of new cars a lot of the manufactures had mandatory rules for handling their freight. Chains, certain hooks, straps only etc.

For example one that stands out was safety vests. We worked out of a terminal that didn't require workers to dawn a safety vest. Some of the ones we worked did. Some didn't. Other auto hauling companies made it mandatory for drivers and ours didn't.

However, a very tight and strict auto manufacture required it as rule regardless of the port or the trucking company. If you got into their vehicles, moved their vehicles, loaded, unloaded at dealerships. You must have a vest on. If someone from corporate or another company had a bone to pick with you this could be enough cause for them to suspend your ability to move their freight.

This company also wouldn't allow you to wear jeans, or at anytime have a personal phone on you while you operating their vehicles.

More importantly I am just recalling there was a crack down by one the big 3 and they wanted drivers to not have their phones on their person or wear jeans, studded belts etc. Being they were so concerned for their product not to be slashed, stabbed or poked. So I find it odd they are not required to wear a form of uniform on the line.
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Old 08-20-2015, 11:41 PM
 
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Just to be fair and no confusion here, sport cars, like Chevrolet Corvette and Porcshes, are the high-end American quality, since they have different levels of management, craftsmanship, and quality. Some of these assembly workers may be huge Corvette fans, and they LOVE building Corvettes, so they build them with pride, despite their baggy pants they're wearing to work.

Some low-end quality union workers I can think of are GM's Lordstown Chevrolet Cruze plant (the worst I think) and Ford's Kansas City F-150 plant (they build trucks too fast and left loose screws). I own a 2008 F-150 built in Kansas City, and I had to bring it back 3 times during warranty to tighten screws and tight loose shield plates.

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Old 08-21-2015, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Prosper
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Personally, I'll take a slob who does impeccable work
Well, your experiences have been different than mine, because I've never in my life met a slob who does impeccable work, or impeccable anything.
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Old 08-21-2015, 07:59 AM
 
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People think that cars made in Japan are more reliable, but I think that Japan, USA, & Canada all are basically the same. I'd be wary of Mexico (unless the plant has been there for a long time and has a good rep) and China (stay away for now).
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Old 08-21-2015, 08:10 AM
 
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I know you can tell if a car is made in Japan by looking at the VIN number. However, can anyone comment on the quality differences between Japanese cars that are made in Japan versus those made in USA and Canada?
Considering Buick for instance is a much more reliable car than a Toyota it is not black and white
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Old 08-22-2015, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Is there a USA manufacturer who offers a FWD compact or economy car or mini-suv, 4cyl equipped, that will last me 400,000 miles with only normal maintenance? To include electronics.
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Old 08-22-2015, 09:46 PM
 
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My wife has owned and driven both Toyota and Honda made in Japan and US and all were really reliable. She has driven 3 for ten years each with zero problems only maintenance.They also held their value well for a car when we sold them.

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Old 08-23-2015, 01:17 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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The longest I drove my Detroit cars was five years. They all started giving problems that were too expensive and labor intensive about that time. I keep my Japanese cars a bit longer! I have owned my 1993 Nissan truck 22 years, and my 2005 Corolla ten years. I have put way less repairs in the truck in the past 22 years than I put in my Detroit vehicles in five or less. My Corolla has cost me no money in repairs. It's needed just two sets of tires and two batteries. I traded in a 1985 Nissan Sentra on my truck that only needed a new muffler after eight years of excellent service. I traded it in only because I wanted a truck!
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Old 12-10-2015, 10:17 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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Mine is Japanese, made in Japan.

I'd prefer the same thing for any future cars I own.
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Old 12-10-2015, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC & Augusta, GA
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I would also think that the cars made in Japan would have better quality, though my 2006 Odyssey has an American made transmission that still works well.
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