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Old 01-01-2016, 07:40 AM
 
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It's old news, OP. 2 years or so ago some egg head in Seattle here came up with BT system that allowed him to control - some - vehicles brakes, doors and acceleration. There was immediate bang in media followed by silence.
You know, honestly, I'd have been less worried about this. Be more worried about planned switch to virtual money and finances. As with that, any time they want to turn you into a beggar - they can.
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Old 01-01-2016, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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Why don't they design so the hack able parts are not connected to the engine, brakes, or locks, or other systems?
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Old 01-01-2016, 12:58 PM
 
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Why don't they design so the hack able parts are not connected to the engine, brakes, or locks, or other systems?
because you are not seeing the whole picture that the automakers and the government want. in addition to tracking your car, the government wants to be able to track your emissions, among other things. and the automakers want to be able to send you notices indicating when your car is due for service, or needs repairs.

second, designing one main computer makes diagnosing every system connected to it easy to trouble shoot.

third, as long as there is one computer in the car that is hackable, then all computers in the car are also hackable even though they are not directly connected.
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Old 01-01-2016, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Is it possible to hack the car through the TPMS or remote keyless entry?
No, but if you have one of those dongles from your insurance company to spy on you in exchange for lower rates they can/might use it.

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Old 01-01-2016, 08:10 PM
 
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What Car and Driver apparently didn't tell you is the car was chipped to accept commands and that's how they managed it. But, if given enough time, and that would be days, the Bluetooth on your radio system is vulnerable to being hacked. Once in the system the hacker would have to get code to break into the CAN or Controller Network to make any of the other things work how they want. So it's not something that is likely but is a possibility. Some cars you have the option of turning off the Bluetooth. These cars are not hackable....yet.
You can't access the car computer through bluetooth. They are on separate networks. A meaningful hack through bluetooth is not possible. A hacker can change the radio, play something, or read GPS info (addresses, etc), but not control the car.
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Old 01-01-2016, 09:18 PM
 
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You can't access the car computer through bluetooth. They are on separate networks. A meaningful hack through bluetooth is not possible. A hacker can change the radio, play something, or read GPS info (addresses, etc), but not control the car.
that depends on how connected everything is.
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Old 01-02-2016, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Hackers hate my Jeep... every time they try I just put it in neutral, roll to a stop and let go of the clutch. Works like a charm, that magical manual trans. It's the ultimate self control device.
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Old 01-02-2016, 11:17 PM
 
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hackers hate my fairmont because it can never be hacked.
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Old 01-03-2016, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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Hackers hate my Jeep... every time they try I just put it in neutral, roll to a stop and let go of the clutch. Works like a charm, that magical manual trans. It's the ultimate self control device.
How often does this happen?
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Old 01-03-2016, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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because you are not seeing the whole picture that the automakers and the government want. in addition to tracking your car, the government wants to be able to track your emissions, among other things. and the automakers want to be able to send you notices indicating when your car is due for service, or needs repairs.

second, designing one main computer makes diagnosing every system connected to it easy to trouble shoot.

third, as long as there is one computer in the car that is hackable, then all computers in the car are also hackable even though they are not directly connected.
First and second I get, but the third doesn't make sense. If the main computer is not networked, it can't be hacked wirelessly. There has to be a connection.
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