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Old 06-30-2017, 08:30 AM
 
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My alternator is making an electrical whine that gets louder with load. I've listened with a stethoscope and I'm sure it's not the bearings. It's not a bearing noise. It's a low, steady whine, not screechy or marble-y.The alternator tests bad under heavy load (with AC and lights and rear defrost, voltage drops below 13V and keeps dropping), but puts out voltage to spec when not loaded like that. I'm planning to replace it because of the bad test and the noise. I just would like to understand what's wrong with it for my knowledge, which is pretty minimal. Anyone know what could make an alternator whine besides the bearings?

98 Altima
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Old 06-30-2017, 08:33 AM
 
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Insulation worn off wiring in one of the turns and arcing to the casing?


I'd think that'd be more of a buzzing than a whine, but..



There's just not much there to go wrong, you got your magnets, you got your windings. If it's not one of those.. Maybe the hamster inside is crying?
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Old 06-30-2017, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Wichita Falls Texas
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Bad diodes. Just go ahead and replace it. It won't fix itself. Or if you want to, see if you can find a rebuild kit and give it a try if you want. I've rebuilt some of mine before. But they were older simpler designs. You will need at least a 100 watt soldering iron though. Those little cheap pencil type 30 watt jobs just don't do the job.
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Old 06-30-2017, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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How old is it? If it is a teenager - they all whine from time to time. Just sing a song and drown it out.
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Old 06-30-2017, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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My alternator is making an electrical whine that gets louder with load. I've listened with a stethoscope and I'm sure it's not the bearings. It's not a bearing noise. It's a low, steady whine, not screechy or marble-y.The alternator tests bad under heavy load (with AC and lights and rear defrost, voltage drops below 13V and keeps dropping), but puts out voltage to spec when not loaded like that. I'm planning to replace it because of the bad test and the noise. I just would like to understand what's wrong with it for my knowledge, which is pretty minimal. Anyone know what could make an alternator whine besides the bearings?

98 Altima
Bearings, maybe. But if the radio is turned on and you hear an electrical whine that goes up and down with the engine RPM, then it could be that the radio needs to be grounded properly.
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Old 07-01-2017, 05:54 AM
 
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My alternator is making an electrical whine that gets louder with load. I've listened with a stethoscope and I'm sure it's not the bearings. It's not a bearing noise. It's a low, steady whine, not screechy or marble-y.The alternator tests bad under heavy load (with AC and lights and rear defrost, voltage drops below 13V and keeps dropping), but puts out voltage to spec when not loaded like that. I'm planning to replace it because of the bad test and the noise. I just would like to understand what's wrong with it for my knowledge, which is pretty minimal. Anyone know what could make an alternator whine besides the bearings?

98 Altima
An alternator is a three phase device. If a diode has failed or there is a bad winding in one of the phases there will be a gap in what should be a smooth production of current and the windings will whine. That this is the problem is confirmed by the poor output under full load.

Don in Austin
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Old 07-01-2017, 05:57 AM
 
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Bearings, maybe. But if the radio is turned on and you hear an electrical whine that goes up and down with the engine RPM, then it could be that the radio needs to be grounded properly.
The theory about the radio does not explain the poor output from the alternator under load. There is a failure of a diode or a winding fault such that one of the three phases of the alternator is not working.

Don in Austin
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Old 07-01-2017, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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The theory about the radio does not explain the poor output from the alternator under load. There is a failure of a diode or a winding fault such that one of the three phases of the alternator is not working.

Don in Austin
Yes, that's true. I was referring a winning noise from the alternator. Bearings that are dry can cause that noise.
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Old 07-02-2017, 07:16 PM
 
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Yes, that's true. I was referring a winning noise from the alternator. Bearings that are dry can cause that noise.
A similar noise and its easy to make a mistake about this, but not a load-sensitive noise.

Don in Austin
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Old 07-02-2017, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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Could the fan belt be too tight causing too much load on the bearings?
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