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Old 08-02-2018, 12:51 PM
 
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Your numbers are a little messed up - they don’t take into consideration the total amount paid on the loan, property tax, compounded interest or oppurtunity cost.
None of which was mentioned in your early posts. Once again, goalposts moved. Which is sad because I do think there are discussion-worthy things to 'regret' (and improve upon) about the overall state of the automotive industry and how it functions to sell its wares. But this particular discussion has deteriorated.
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Old 08-02-2018, 01:01 PM
 
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Your numbers are a little messed up - they don’t take into consideration the total amount paid on the loan, property tax, compounded interest or oppurtunity cost.
To the poster's credit, the focus was on mpg differences in the recent posts.

As for the other things, that would be more work because there are a lot of factors involved, so while could use averages, that is all it would be and a good number of people can and will have different numbers that factored in, along with non-quantifiable factors.
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Old 08-02-2018, 01:28 PM
 
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None of which was mentioned in your early posts. Once again, goalposts moved. Which is sad because I do think there are discussion-worthy things to 'regret' (and improve upon) about the overall state of the automotive industry and how it functions to sell its wares. But this particular discussion has deteriorated.
Why should the basic cost associated with buying a car need to be mentioned? Sheesh - do some people really not think of these things?
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Old 08-02-2018, 01:29 PM
 
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To the poster's credit, the focus was on mpg differences in the recent posts.

As for the other things, that would be more work because there are a lot of factors involved, so while could use averages, that is all it would be and a good number of people can and will have different numbers that factored in, along with non-quantifiable factors.
I like averages. I could go out on a limb for example and say the average buyer isn’t paying cash for a $40k vehicle.
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Old 08-02-2018, 01:33 PM
 
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I like averages. I could go out on a limb for example and say the average buyer isn’t paying cash for a $40k vehicle.
With the interest rates available, a person would be stupid to pay cash for a car. Better to take out a low interest loan, and toss the cash into a high earning fund.
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Old 08-02-2018, 01:37 PM
 
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Why should the basic cost associated with buying a car need to be mentioned? Sheesh - do some people really not think of these things?
It should be, but the discussion recently was over mpg only.

As for other factors, there are numerous ones, and how to even incorporate non-quantifiable factors?
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Old 08-02-2018, 01:42 PM
 
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With the interest rates available, a person would be stupid to pay cash for a car. Better to take out a low interest loan, and toss the cash into a high earning fund.
I agree - of course that piece of advice only applies to those with cash to buy a $40k vehicle...people that probably already know how to manage money.
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Old 08-02-2018, 01:44 PM
 
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Because it’s not what this discussion was about start a new on this if you must but stick to the subject matter and like people have said who cares what others think about what people spend their own money on why does it matter to some on here anyway people don’t want to here about this on this board, it feels like we’re in a economics class. Why do people insist on not staying on the subject matter it just crazy. And the same thing can be said about buying a house that people can’t afford or a big screen tv that they can’t afford, or that iPhone were they could buy a cheaper on instead enough already autos are not the only thing people can’t afford that is trendy, go on the houseing forum and say what you’re saying here.
Again, if you don't understand how tangential issues can relate to original issues, I don't know what to tell you.

And, again, if you don't want to discuss or hear from all viewpoints related to all issues, why come here at all?
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Old 08-02-2018, 02:37 PM
 
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Again, if you don't understand how tangential issues can relate to original issues, I don't know what to tell you.

And, again, if you don't want to discuss or hear from all viewpoints related to all issues, why come here at all?
I come here to talk about the subject at hand not anything else that has to do with the subject we are talking about like i said start a new tread or go to a different forum you are the one that seems he’ll bent on pushing your agenda on a subject that’s not even relevant to the topic.
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Old 08-02-2018, 02:51 PM
 
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Why should the basic cost associated with buying a car need to be mentioned? Sheesh - do some people really not think of these things?
Where is/was your opportunity cost analysis? You know you're juat bringing this up because your initial premise relating only size and mileage didn't garner you the response you hoped for.

Ok here's my own goalpost move: why aren't you hybrid drivers paying your fair share of taxes to aupport the roads you drive on?
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