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I've consulted with no less than three different transmission repair shops, asking their respective inputs on the CVT. All said the same thing: "They're junk!"
Unless you are getting a new or slightly used one with a full warranty, I would avoid it.
You can NOT buy a "new" transmission. They make them in a 1:1 ratio on an assembly line. The best you can buy is a factory remanufactured/rebuilt transmission straight from nissan. I don't know why people talk about buying "new" engines and transmissions. They don't exist.
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Originally Posted by ItsRick24
I've consulted with no less than three different transmission repair shops, asking their respective inputs on the CVT. All said the same thing: "They're junk!"
I'd stay away.
CVT is total junk. Anyway one who knows anything about transmissions knows this. GM abandoned them 15 years ago due to premature failure. The new chevy malibu has a cvt. Just wait till you see all the problems with that car. It's all to shave a few percentage points on fuel economy. Barely an improvement at all for gas mileage as far dollars spent on gas goes. Also some hondas have recently switched to cvt. Say goodbye to 300k accords.
You can NOT buy a "new" transmission. They make them in a 1:1 ratio on an assembly line. The best you can buy is a factory remanufactured/rebuilt transmission straight from nissan. I don't know why people talk about buying "new" engines and transmissions. They don't exist.
Err. False. If you have a brand new transmission design, there are no rebuilt transmissions to be found since there have been no failures. If you have transmission failure, you get a new transmission.
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Originally Posted by BeyondtheHorizon
CVT is total junk. Anyway one who knows anything about transmissions knows this. GM abandoned them 15 years ago due to premature failure. The new chevy malibu has a cvt. Just wait till you see all the problems with that car. It's all to shave a few percentage points on fuel economy. Barely an improvement at all for gas mileage as far dollars spent on gas goes. Also some hondas have recently switched to cvt. Say goodbye to 300k accords.
GM also gave us delightful engineering like the Chevy Vega. That wasn't a 2018 design, either. GM made the Vega. Therefore, don't ever buy a GM product because they make unreliable cars. Brilliant logic. Just because the Nissan/JATCO CVT everybody used a decade ago had massive problems doesn't mean all CVT are ticking time bombs. 30+ percent of cars manufactured today have a CVT. It's been that way since 2015. Technology changes and evolves.
Err. False. If you have a brand new transmission design, there are no rebuilt transmissions to be found since there have been no failures. If you have transmission failure, you get a new transmission.
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What does this have to with op's question? So an old nissan that the op is asking about will get a new cvt? LOL The point is mute. You can NOT purchase a new transmission for that car. It's not a brand spanking new car and you're wrong anyway even on that point.
Almost all modern Car companies do not sell new transmissions. They sell rebuilt ones. Please show a link where I can buy a new transmission directly from hyundai/nissan ect. Not remanufactured, But completely new. Call up nissan/hyundai/honda ect. and ask if you can buy a transmission for that vehicle op listed that is brand new. They will tell you no. They don't sell them. Cores get shipped back from failed units and they rebuild them.
There's always been trannies available in brand new cars including cars that have been totaled, but tranny is salvageable. It's almost unheard of to get a new transmission. Sure, there might be some rare cases where a 2019 you just bought in January has a failed transmission weeks after you bought it. This is 1 in 50,000 type odds. At that point, they'd probably give you a new car in many cases. At the beginning there are very few rebuilt trannies available, but also very few failures so very few people looking to get one! It's in the same ratio! You have zero chance of getting a new transmission if the car is more than a few years old, where 99 percent of failures occur. Trannies rarely fail in the first year of operation. You can't buy one even if you wanted one. Call them up yourself.
Have you personally bought a brand new transmission recently? I already know the answer.
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GM also gave us delightful engineering like the Chevy Vega. That wasn't a 2018 design, either. GM made the Vega. Therefore, don't ever buy a GM product because they make unreliable cars. Brilliant logic. Just because the Nissan/JATCO CVT everybody used a decade ago had massive problems doesn't mean all CVT are ticking time bombs. 30+ percent of cars manufactured today have a CVT. It's been that way since 2015. Technology changes and evolves.
Ford can make great cars and total garbage also. Ford tempo/escape vs crown vic/lincoln towcar.
This has nothing to do with cvt's showing continued problems and lack of reliability including more recent years.
2013 nissans are continuing the problems with cvt. Actually it seems to have gotten worse and those warranties were never extended to 120k so people are stuck suing in class action lawsuits. CVT is unproven garbage.
"The most concerning issue is the all these problems lead to a short lifespan for the CVT.
The 2011 Versa, for example, has an average failure of 64,750 miles. The very popular 2013 Altima fails around 60,167 miles.
In fact the problem appears to be getting worse, because if you look at older model years with complaints about CVT failure they typically have a longer lifespan – like the 2008 Altima which has a much more reasonable (albeit still frustrating) average failure over 120,000 miles."
A 2013 is a more recent, not 10 years old. There's numerous class action lawsuits against nissan for this transmission. This technology has NOT been perfected. The 2015 altima for example continues to show transmission problems https://www.carcomplaints.com/Nissan/Altima/2015/
You don't see this with other cars with good transmissions.
Nissan rogue is also terrible. https://www.carcomplaints.com/Nissan.../transmission/
But hey if you're smarter than everyone else, go buy a cvt from nissan and once you get past 60k and it fails you're crap out luck! Doesn't seem like it makes much sense to take that risk, but that's just me.
Just to be clear, I know in 99 percent of cases, transmissions installed under warranty are rebuilt, but there could be rare warranty exceptions where certain car manufacturers puts in a truly new transmission, but this would only be under warranty and extremely rare. I've never heard of them actually selling them to the general public. I do have a question, when hyundai engines failed(spun bearings), are the warrantied engines truly new? Everyone says they are getting a "new" engine. Many people can't differentiate between new and rebuilt. Is hyundai actually making brand new engines? This could be an exception, whereas most engines are rebuilt. I read they have a 2 percent failure rate(and that figure was given years ago when many hadn't hit high mileage), which is massive number of engine failures when you're selling a million cars over a few years.
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Doesn't seem like it makes much sense to take that risk, but that's just me.
