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Old 03-28-2019, 01:01 PM
 
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Depends. In Europe a reach of 400+ km as already offered by several car makers is plenty as most people only commute to work, which is just a few km away. One can last weeks with one charge. Trips across the country are more of a problem, especially in big countries.

One problem I see is that with more and more electric cars on the road, there will need to be many more charging stations, spread all over cities and along roads. That means high maintenance cost. There probably needs to be an app telling people where there is an unoccupied station close to where they want to park.

Ideally one could charge the car at home over night.

The race for solid-state batteries seems to be as tough as that for quantum computers. Since it is about the future of our planet, I think the research should be financed by car makers from all over the world and the results should be available to all car and battery makers free of charge.
It's not the range, it's the increase in safety, longevity, and reduction in cost and charge times that make them a much more viable long term solution.
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Old 03-28-2019, 01:10 PM
 
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It's not the range, it's the increase in safety, longevity, and reduction in cost and charge times that make them a much more viable long term solution.
Either way, another aspect why my idea of a globally standardized battery module format might make sense. One can buy an electric car today and simply replace the batteries with more modern ones when they become available. As long as the format and electric specs (output voltage, current etc.) of the battery as well as the charge plug are standardized, it doesn't matter. Just like there are AAA batteries from all kinds of manufacturers and of diverse power and quality.
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Old 03-28-2019, 01:44 PM
 
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Either way, another aspect why my idea of a globally standardized battery module format might make sense. One can buy an electric car today and simply replace the batteries with more modern ones when they become available. As long as the format and electric specs (output voltage, current etc.) of the battery as well as the charge plug are standardized, it doesn't matter. Just like there are AAA batteries from all kinds of manufacturers and of diverse power and quality.
Not really a new idea, the Leaf and i3 allow for that currently.

A large part of the cost are batteries, why pay so much for something that might be irrelevant in half a decade? There is a reason why electric cars depreciate so quickly...(except Tesla which apparently defies the odds of logic)l
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Old 03-28-2019, 01:55 PM
 
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I can put i3 batteries into the Leaf and vice versa?
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Old 03-28-2019, 02:14 PM
 
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Not really a new idea, the Leaf and i3 allow for that currently.

A large part of the cost are batteries, why pay so much for something that might be irrelevant in half a decade? There is a reason why electric cars depreciate so quickly...(except Tesla which apparently defies the odds of logic)l


Similar to the Apple effect. No one really wants to buy a used smartphone or laptop. Unless it's an iPhone or MacBook.
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Old 03-28-2019, 02:33 PM
 
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How do you know when those cars have been available only for a couple of years?
I don't want a Tesla, nor anything Apple...
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Old 03-28-2019, 02:47 PM
 
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The Model Y will kill all BMW i3 sales.
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Old 03-28-2019, 03:12 PM
 
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https://www2.greencarreports.com/new...riving-systems
The only autopilot system worse than the Tesla is the Apple
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Old 03-28-2019, 04:55 PM
 
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As soon as someone builds a good looking, reliable EV for about $50/60K, than I can drive for 600 to 700 miles, and charge it at a hotel overnight, I’m in.
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Old 03-28-2019, 05:01 PM
 
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As soon as someone builds a good looking, reliable EV for about $50/60K, than I can drive for 600 to 700 miles, and charge it at a hotel overnight, I’m in.
You can tow one of these and you're set!

https://www.tesla.com/powerwall
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