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Old 07-12-2019, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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The shifter in my car isn’t going to grenade the transmission in it either. And in 30 years of driving I have yet to replace a shifter much less a clutch cable. My standard shift truck...still on the original clutch and cable at 160,000 miles. To me it’s just adding something more complicated for absolutely no reason at all.
And something electronic that controls your vehicles ability to function placed on a center console. Right next to the cup holder for a drink.
When i had a part time office cleaning job in metro Detroit i had to clean a office and shop of a automotive supplier engineering dept. they made lighting and cables for the automotive industry. They would set up test we’re cabl were subject to test for strength and durability that the average vehicle would never be put through. They would stretch and apply salt water on them for months 24 /7 . There were mills, and lathes, and plastic injection molding machines in the shop also. They would also get a vehicle from the manufacture and take it apart to test the emergency brake cables, and clutch cables. And the different headlights that they designed i seen prototypes that are being used in today’s vehicles the supplier name was FKI automotive.sure there’s going to be a cabinet that breaks now and then. Automakers have their suppliers test their components beyond what the average driver puts their vehicles through. Paint is tested in the heat of the Arizona desert were i live i see new vehicles being tested on the roads around were i live by FCA HQ, and GM proving ground they are all camouflage but you know what they are especially when you see a manufacture license plate on them.
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Old 07-13-2019, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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When i had a part time office cleaning job in metro Detroit i had to clean a office and shop of a automotive supplier engineering dept. they made lighting and cables for the automotive industry. They would set up test we’re cabl were subject to test for strength and durability that the average vehicle would never be put through. They would stretch and apply salt water on them for months 24 /7 . There were mills, and lathes, and plastic injection molding machines in the shop also. They would also get a vehicle from the manufacture and take it apart to test the emergency brake cables, and clutch cables. And the different headlights that they designed i seen prototypes that are being used in today’s vehicles the supplier name was FKI automotive.sure there’s going to be a cabinet that breaks now and then. Automakers have their suppliers test their components beyond what the average driver puts their vehicles through. Paint is tested in the heat of the Arizona desert were i live i see new vehicles being tested on the roads around were i live by FCA HQ, and GM proving ground they are all camouflage but you know what they are especially when you see a manufacture license plate on them.
All that testing and amazingly electronic stuff still breaks all the time on vehicles. It’s simply another control point that’s going through the BCM and TCM to shift the gears. So it’s just another possible failure point. It’s just something else that’s going to be fine very expensive to replace when it breaks either from use or abuse
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Old 07-15-2019, 11:27 AM
 
Location: FFC, CT
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One issue I saw is the buttons were located on the center where the traditional gear shift lever was traditionally located. Would you prefer this location or one somewhere on the dash near the steering column?
I'm good with the center location because the dash is already crowded with buttons.
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Old 07-15-2019, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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All that testing and amazingly electronic stuff still breaks all the time on vehicles. It’s simply another control point that’s going through the BCM and TCM to shift the gears. So it’s just another possible failure point. It’s just something else that’s going to be fine very expensive to replace when it breaks either from use or abuse
It’s like everything else that’s man made it will fail at sometime so you just can’t say it’s just vehicles.
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Old 07-15-2019, 12:30 PM
 
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Just more crap to break. I prefer a standard shift or the normal floor shifter transmission linkage.

Gotta agree. Push button is great until you spill coffee on it one day and then 3 months later you can't shift out of Park when out running errands.

My '14 car still uses a console shifter with a cable down to the trans.
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Old 07-15-2019, 01:36 PM
 
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Gotta agree. Push button is great until you spill coffee on it one day and then 3 months later you can't shift out of Park when out running errands.

My '14 car still uses a console shifter with a cable down to the trans.
As I noted earlier, many console shifters have been electronic for years. AFAIK, there hasn't been a rash of failures.
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