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Old 02-05-2010, 08:57 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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Id recommend the Purolator or the purolator Pure one for a few $$ more. Great store bought filters
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Here
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The one thing to remember is to not use Fram.

For a store brand filter O'reilly Micro-Gard is a very good filter.

But remember; just don't use Fram.
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:02 AM
 
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The one thing to remember is to not use Fram.

But remember; just don't use Fram.
Why is that?
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Pomona
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Why is that?
Cheaper materials, much less filtering surface area, ineffective anti-drainback valves, and inconsistent assembly. To top it off, you're not saving any money despite moving their manufacturing from the States to down South.

The Fram these days isn't the Fram of yore.
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Old 02-05-2010, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Incognito
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I usually go with OEM oil and air.
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Old 02-05-2010, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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OEM only.
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Old 02-05-2010, 11:21 AM
 
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Cheaper materials, much less filtering surface area, ineffective anti-drainback valves, and inconsistent assembly. To top it off, you're not saving any money despite moving their manufacturing from the States to down South.

The Fram these days isn't the Fram of yore.

Nailed it!
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Old 02-05-2010, 11:22 AM
 
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OEM only.

Actually have you seen some of the OEM filters when they are opened up? Some are no better than a Fram. (GM...)
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Old 02-05-2010, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Pomona
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FWIW, on a Volvo ...

OEM Volvo/Mann W917 filter - 316 sq.in. of filtering area.
Equivalent Fram PH7328 - 111 sq.in of filtering area.

The disparity exists between Fram and other major brands (Puralator, Wix) too, though prolly not to the same extent.
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Old 02-05-2010, 12:33 PM
 
Location: So. of Rosarito, Baja, Mexico
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I do believe that the filtering sq in does factor into how the oil will be filtered. If the filter were cheap enough (regardless of sq in) a person could replace it every weekend and have a clean moter after a while. Once the filter gets to a saturation point (dirty) then the miles driven after that point the oil does not get cleaned but circulated thru the dirty filter. The standard ? theory of a 3000 mile change point is worthless if the oil filter is already dirty after say 2000 miles.

For me the miles are nothing...if the oil is dirty then so is the filter regarless of miles driven.

On my car I may change the oil and filter after 1000 miles or 2000 miles depending on what the dip stick tells me. I spend more money on soft drinks or on a bottle of hard liquor then what is spent on a oil and filter change. A clean engine is a healthy engine.

Steve
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