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I am not an automotive engineer, so I can't categorically state any opinion from a professional standpoint.
But it appears that Citroen's hydropneumatic suspension (and later enhancements) represents an advancement in automotive design and performance.
It was very effective in dealing with the war ravaged road infrastructure of France. Which leads me to wonder if American cars should adopt it - since our roads are decaying at an alarming rate.
If gasoline consumption keeps dropping, and cutting the revenues for road maintenance, inevitably, the expectation of smooth pavement will be dashed.
Having had very little direct experience or even knowledge about the suspension, until recently, leads me to wonder if more American customers were clamoring for it, that we might see it appear on top of the line models.
Unless, of course, there is a "Toyota" issue regarding the suspension...
The weakest link in their most recent incarnation of this system (came out in 2009) is frankly the price. Few people are willing to pay the extra $5-10.000 for a smoother ride.
The weakest link in their most recent incarnation of this system (came out in 2009) is frankly the price. Few people are willing to pay the extra $5-10.000 for a smoother ride.
I thought the price differential (wholesale) was only $150 - 200, for hydropneumatic suspension.
I think GM's magnetorheological system is a simpler system that works very effectively. The centralized systems German companies tried out in the past didn't work too well if I remember correctly, but they used air as the central fluid.
Back in Scottsdale I had a client who I was taking care of that had one of those Citroen's. I thought it was very odd that a 91 year old women had a lowered car with an extremely harsh ride. I remember pushing down on each end of the car and it had no give at all. Now I know why. This is a terrible design. Let the French keep it over there.
Back in Scottsdale I had a client who I was taking care of that had one of those Citroen's. I thought it was very odd that a 91 year old women had a lowered car with an extremely harsh ride. I remember pushing down on each end of the car and it had no give at all. Now I know why. This is a terrible design. Let the French keep it over there.
Why is it a terrible design, if you don't mind me asking?
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Originally Posted by jetgraphics
I thought the price differential (wholesale) was only $150 - 200, for hydropneumatic suspension.
If that's the case, we're getting ripped off, lol. I know the price difference for getting the system here in Norway is 10K but things here are usually twice of what it costs elsewhere, hence the 5k I mentioned.
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Originally Posted by Sayantsi
I think GM's magnetorheological system is a simpler system that works very effectively. The centralized systems German companies tried out in the past didn't work too well if I remember correctly, but they used air as the central fluid.
Does the GM system work in the same way as Audis? metal filing in the damper fluid that's magnetized or demagnetized to change the viscosity of the fluid?
The electro magnetic shock system is similar in design between gm, audi, and ferrari
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This is a terrible design. Let the French keep it over there.
