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Old 03-14-2014, 09:36 AM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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If it is at an airfield somewhere, maybe in a hanger, somebody somewhere had better be prepared for a 9/11.

As to why they would hijack a Malaysian plane, probably due to security being poor. Also, maybe that is where they had the most contacts. They would not only have contacts at the beginning of the flight but also at airfield/s in that part of the world. This would have been planned out and arranged far in advance.
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Old 03-14-2014, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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Somebody with the knowledge and a sinister motive can take a Boeing 777, modify its electronic signature... I hope our defenses are keeping their eyes and ears open out there.
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Old 03-14-2014, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Upstate
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That's only if the plane crashed into the water at a slow speed. Otherwise, if the plane hit the water at a high speed, the plane would fully disintegrate into tiny pieces with the only floating debris being credit cards, paper, and other small items as such. Swiss Air 111 is a good example of this.
If this happened, it could be a while before any debris shows up on land. The debris from the tsunami that hit Japan is supposed to hit Alaska in the next few months. It's been over two years (but crossed a much wider body of water).
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Old 03-14-2014, 09:54 AM
 
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If it is at an airfield somewhere, maybe in a hanger, somebody somewhere had better be prepared for a 9/11.

As to why they would hijack a Malaysian plane, probably due to security being poor. Also, maybe that is where they had the most contacts. They would not only have contacts at the beginning of the flight but also at airfield/s in that part of the world. This would have been planned out and arranged far in advance.
While possible, I find it odd. One can purchase aircraft and fly them in to things without the hassle of having to steal an aircraft full of passengers. A B767, the same aircraft used to strike The World Trade Center can be purchased on the open market right now for under $4m; smaller Boeing jets for significantly less. A state-sponsored terrorist organization could likely afford that. On the Black Market, such an aircraft could possibly be cheaper. It seems like so much trouble and people would be expecting it if it is concluded that the MH aircraft was indeed hijacked.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Kingstowne, VA
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Why in thee hell is it so easy to make a plane invisible during flight??? That is a huge liability because if something happens to the plane, like this fiasco, survivors cannot be found; other air traffic won't be able to see the plane either except a visual sighting, which could cause midair collisions; and a massive amount of resources and manpower would have a preventable hardship and expenditure trying to find a ghost.

For all we know, this plane could be in the Himalayas. I refuse to believe the US, China, India, Japan don't have the technology to locate where a 777 crashed, what with all these expensive buttons and switches and beacons and antennas and thingamajigs built into planes these days? This is just not believable to me.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:05 AM
 
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While possible, I find it odd. One can purchase aircraft and fly them in to things without the hassle of having to steal an aircraft full of passengers. A B767, the same aircraft used to strike The World Trade Center can be purchased on the open market right now for under $4m; smaller Boeing jets for significantly less. A state-sponsored terrorist organization could likely afford that. On the Black Market, such an aircraft could possibly be cheaper. It seems like so much trouble and people would be expecting it if it is concluded that the MH aircraft was indeed hijacked.
Thank you for this post. It never ceases to amaze me how people theorize on these Rube-Goldberg terror plots when someone could simply hire a charter or buy their own plane and accomplish the same task. Maybe we need unfreeze Austin Powers so he can save us from Dr. Evil and his henchmen.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:06 AM
 
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Originally Posted by in_newengland
If it is at an airfield somewhere, maybe in a hanger, somebody somewhere had better be prepared for a 9/11.

As to why they would hijack a Malaysian plane, probably due to security being poor. Also, maybe that is where they had the most contacts. They would not only have contacts at the beginning of the flight but also at airfield/s in that part of the world. This would have been planned out and arranged far in advance.


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While possible, I find it odd. One can purchase aircraft and fly them in to things without the hassle of having to steal an aircraft full of passengers. A B767, the same aircraft used to strike The World Trade Center can be purchased on the open market right now for under $4m; smaller Boeing jets for significantly less. A state-sponsored terrorist organization could likely afford that. On the Black Market, such an aircraft could possibly be cheaper. It seems like so much trouble and people would be expecting it if it is concluded that the MH aircraft was indeed hijacked.
It is odd. If it was hijacked one scenario that makes sense to me is that it could have been hijacked by the co-pilot. I hate to think that. We place our lives in the hands of the pilots and we trust them completely. The only reason I think that could possibly be the case is that it would be so easy for him, being right there, knowing the plane, knowing the area. But some questions have been raised about the co pilot.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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As to why they don't just buy a plane, maybe they wanted hostages too?
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:13 AM
 
Location: NYC based - Used to Live in Philly - Transplant from Miami
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If they want hostages, by now they have already announce that they have all these people for ransom...
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:14 AM
 
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Why in thee hell is it so easy to make a plane invisible during flight??? That is a huge liability because if something happens to the plane, like this fiasco, survivors cannot be found; other air traffic won't be able to see the plane either except a visual sighting, which could cause midair collisions; and a massive amount of resources and manpower would have a preventable hardship and expenditure trying to find a ghost.

For all we know, this plane could be in the Himalayas. I refuse to believe the US, China, India, Japan don't have the technology to locate where a 777 crashed, what with all these expensive buttons and switches and beacons and antennas and thingamajigs built into planes these days? This is just not believable to me.
Turning off the transponder doesn't make the aircraft invisible, but it does render it unidentifiable if not in radio contact. It isn't a stealth aircraft. Clearly, it could be anywhere on this planet.
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